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Offline Alohaey

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Retrosynthesis Question
« on: September 30, 2008, 07:17:39 AM »
Hi all

At first I want to mention that this is an assignment question and I do not expect a full answer, however I'm looking for some starting help to get me going since I'm totally stuck.

We have to design a synthesis of A (see attachment) from B. My first thought was that the oxygen is easier replaced than the two methyl groups in B. Therefore I assume that the two methyl groups in A are the same ones in B. For ring formation the Diels-Alder reaction would be suitable. However if I react it with an alkene I get D which has the two methyl groups on the 3. position and not the 2nd. That where I got stuck. Otherwise I would try to use a Beckmann rearrangement which inserts the nitrogen before the ketone etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Alohaey

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Re: Retrosynthesis Question
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 03:41:58 AM »
I worked something that is similar to your problem to get you started. The important part is to get diene from the ab-unsaturated ketone, you can experiment with various substituted dienenes and dienophiles for the later D-A ring formation.

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Re: Retrosynthesis Question
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 08:50:33 AM »
Hi kryptoniitti

Thanks alot for your help. That's definitely a big help. Now I just have to think how to deal with that the grignard reagents don't attack the wrong ketone and react with itself.

Thank again
Alohaey

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Re: Retrosynthesis Question
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 12:12:11 PM »
Are you talking about the grignard in the first step?  There should be no chemoselectivity issues.  The grignard won't attack your double bond, and there is only one ketone.

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Re: Retrosynthesis Question
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 12:58:09 AM »
I'm talking about if I modify kryptoniitti's displayed mechanism to my reaction since the attachment to the grignard reagent would have a nitrogen and also a double bond (see diagram in first post). However I think I found a solution to the answer by using a stabilised oxophosphonate. The picture I attached is the reaction  pathway I have now submitted. Hopefully there are not too many mistakes in it :-)

Thanks again for your help guys
Alohaey

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