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Activation Energy
« on: February 01, 2009, 12:47:13 PM »
Rate constants are 1.3M-1s-1 at 700K & 23.0M-1s-1 at 800K.

I solved for the activation energy of 140kJ/mol and now have to determine the rate constant at 750K, so...

Ln (k1/k2) = -Ea/R x (1/T2 - 1/T1)
Ln(1.3/x) = -140,000J/8.31 x (1/750 - 1/700)
Ln(1.3/x) = 1.604
ANTI LN ANTI LN
1.3/x = 4.97/1
to get 0.2

but the answer in the book is 6.0?


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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 02:10:06 PM »
Ln(1.3/x) = -140,000J/8.31 x (1/750 - 1/700)
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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 07:23:35 PM »
Ln(1.3/x) = -140,000J/8.31 x (1/750 - 1/700)
Ln(1.3/x)=1.60x1010

But then how will I break up that fraction on the right.
Don't I need to do the anti-ln to cancel out the ln on the left side.

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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 03:38:20 AM »
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Ln(1.3/x)=1.60x1010
???

Your previous equation was fine except a mistake which i have already highlighted in red. So if you have adjust it, right side should be a negative value and your numerical value is way too off. And yes you need to do anti ln.
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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 01:12:06 PM »
I did use the negative in my original post?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 01:24:20 PM by student8607 »

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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 02:16:22 PM »
Yes the minus sign should not be present in your equation.

So it should read something like Ln(1.3/x) = 140,000J/8.31 x (1/750 - 1/700)
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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 02:32:47 PM »
OHH. I see.

The handout from our teacher definitely has a negative sign in that equation.

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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 03:01:01 PM »
k = Ae-Ea/RT

k1/k2 = Ae-Ea/RT1/ Ae-Ea/RT2

k1/k2 = e-Ea/RT1/ e-Ea/RT2

k1/k2 = e-Ea/RT1 - (-Ea/RT2)

k1/k2 = e-Ea/RT1 + Ea/RT2

k1/k2 = e(Ea/R)(1/T2 - 1/T1)

ln (k1/k2) = (Ea/R)(1/T2 - 1/T1)

Just a step-by-step to show you why there is no negative sign infront.
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Re: Activation Energy
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 03:08:26 PM »
I see. Thanks. That helps.

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