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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2009, 06:07:01 PM »
Hi ,
please can you help me with the mechanism for 7 -> 8, i know it is an oxime formation but i am not sure how to use NH2OH. Hcl and NaOAc in this mechanism.

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2009, 06:26:04 PM »
btw I know how to do the secont part which is michael addition,but not sure about the first part.

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2009, 09:22:16 PM »
well, this is what i have done sofar, but don't know if its correct.


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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2009, 09:44:55 PM »
You are pretty much correct.  Here's a very nice tutorial diagram on oxime formation, and you can even click the second link I've provided and it'll walk you through each step of the process.

http://www.cf.edu/departments/instruction/las/science/chemistry/mechanisms/oxime-mechanism.htm
http://www.cf.edu/departments/instruction/las/science/chemistry/mechanisms/oxime-tut-1.htm

There's this really weird, kinda annoying music playing along too!

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2009, 03:39:50 AM »
Thanks macman,
 I used the same website to draw my mechanism, but i don't know how NAOAc is converted to CH3COOH.

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2009, 04:12:54 AM »
NaOAc is the sodium salt of acetic acid.  OAc an abbreviation for Acetate, which is the conjugate base of CH3COOH.

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2009, 04:18:44 AM »
Thank you so much macman. :)

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2009, 02:18:21 PM »
The question doesn't say anything about the presence of Water in 3->5 , is that possible that THF plays the role of Water here?

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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2009, 02:51:46 PM »
I've tried to draw it using THF as nucleophile but I don't know how to do it as it doesn't have H attached to O.
Can someone help me please.
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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2009, 03:17:32 PM »
2M HCl is assumed to be in water, unless otherwise specified.
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Re: synthesis of dinitrile (mechanism)
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2009, 03:27:08 PM »
oooohhhhh, that's right. Thank you sooooo much

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