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Offline Mikez

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pressure stays the same
« on: March 14, 2009, 09:03:57 PM »
my teachers says that pressure in a can (assume no volume change) in  a freezer stays the same but how does that make sense?

I thought that K energy proprotional to temperature so if temp goes down then K energy goes down, then since P=F/A and A stays the same then P must go down?

am I missing something?

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Re: pressure stays the same
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2009, 09:15:52 PM »
Dear Mikez;

You are not missing something.

You can make the proof by using the ideal gas law:  pV = nRT (see on Wiki).
Rearrange it for p and keep all constant except the temperature!

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Re: pressure stays the same
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2009, 09:34:13 PM »
thanks,

but I've also noticed that a lot of teachers tend to say that a closed system like a can will always have the same pressure, I don't understand why that would be true?

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Re: pressure stays the same
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2009, 09:40:26 PM »

Dear Mikez;

The whole ideal gas law:  pV = nRT itself is a closed system, but not a can, which can communicate with the environment at least by the temperature.

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