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Offline posix_memalign

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Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« on: April 10, 2009, 12:54:19 PM »
How can I calculate the amount of carbon monoxide that occupies a volume of 140 dm^3 under normal conditions?

I tried using PV = nRT, but this didn't lead me to anything useful. What formula and approach should I use, and why?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks. :-)

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 01:15:51 PM »
Check that you converted dm3 correctly, and that you used the correct R value (check your units).

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 02:08:21 PM »
Check that you converted dm3 correctly, and that you used the correct R value (check your units).

But I don't understand how PV = nRT even is the correct procedure for this -- what should I solve the equation for?

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 02:11:51 PM »
It wants amount of CO, so is there a variable in there that can provide you with "amount" (that could be moles)?

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 03:20:32 PM »
Lets start by seeing what you've done.  Copy the forumula, they copy where you've plugged in values for the known variables.
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 06:06:38 PM »
Lets start by seeing what you've done.  Copy the forumula, they copy where you've plugged in values for the known variables.

At first I have, PV = nRT,
P = 1 atm
V = 140 dm^3
R = 8.314 JK^(-1) mol^(-1)
T = 22 (degrees C)
n = molar mass

Then I get:

1*140 = n * 8.314*22
I solve for n and get ~0.755, which with 1 mol is ~755 grams?

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 06:22:50 PM »

Dear posix_memalign;

There are several mistakes in your interpretation of the Ideal Gas Law:
               http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law  
(Wrong are your T, and n, and R!)

Do you know another equivalent unit for dm3?:
               http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm3 

So your result will not be correct in anyway.
Good Luck!
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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2009, 07:22:31 PM »

Dear posix_memalign;

There are several mistakes in your interpretation of the Ideal Gas Law:
               http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law  
(Wrong are your T, and n, and R!)

Do you know another equivalent unit for dm3?:
               http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm3 

So your result will not be correct in anyway.
Good Luck!
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My revised solution is:

n = 140 / (0.08206 * 298)
n ~ 5.73

Which gives me 160 gram from the product: 5.73 * 28, where 28 is C + O (16+12).

Is 160 gram correct?

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Re: Amount of carbon monoxide in a specific volume?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2009, 07:31:38 PM »

Dear posix_memalign;

If you define normal condition as 1 atm and 25°C, then you are correct!

Usually normal conditions refer to STP, and that’s 1 atm and 0°C.
(For "STP Conditions" see Wiki.)

Good Luck!
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