[Borek]

Are these numbers standard throughout educational system, or are they defined individually at every school?

[movies]

They are definitely not the same at every school.  I suppose a lot of schools use very similar numbering though.  Where I went to undergrad all of the classes with numbers over 100 were graduate level classes, undergrad classes were all less than 100.  I think that is the same at the school I am at now too, but the actual class numbers are totally different (sophomore organic chem is 41 here, but was 51 or 57 at my undergrad).

[Mitch]

In the university of california system. 1-99 is lower division, 100-199 is upper-division, 200-299 is graduate.

[Borek]

So someone claiming he did Chem 111, Chem 122 and Chem 133 is not giving in fact any detailed information on his knowledge (as long as you don't want to dig sylabuses at his university)?

[movies]

Correct.

However, I think people assume that the same content is covered in most sophomore organic sequences, gen. chem. sequences, physical chem. sequences, and inorganic courses.  If someone were to tell me that chem 131-133 was the sophomore organic sequence then I would assume that they had covered the same things I had.

[oldddog]

Here at this university in Western Australia chem units in the 100's denote 1st year undergraduate chemistry units; Chem 101 and Chem 102 are mainstream 1st and 2nd semester units.

[Blueshawk]

In Wisconsin..At UW-GB

100  are introductery courses..usually for chem backrgounds for other courses., or Gen. Ed courses.
200  freshman lvl courses for majors(ie Principles of Chem I and II are Chem 211 and 212)
300+ are upper lvl courses
400+ are usually grad courses, but our grad courses are taught with undergrad students as well.

So some of the classes I've had for my undergrad are grad classes, especially in our math department.  Quite a few upper lvl math course are considered grad courses too.

[billnotgatez]

The series I have seen is as follows

100s courses expected to be taken in first year or as an elective for non chemist
200s for second year like organic (sophomore) [in many cases they are used to separate out who really can do chemistry and who can not]
300s for third year (junior) (pchem)
400s for last year (senior)
500s for first year graduate
600s for later graduate

But most colleges analyze the catalog from another college to determine which courses are equivalent to their courses.

[Agent-X]

Reply #6 on: August 19, 2005, 06:23:08 AM »

If I saw Borek asking a question like that, I would wonder what year I am in.

I'll have to agree with the above poster, though.
Around the midwest, that seems to be the system.

As a question, I've been told that it is possible to obtain a professor's syllabi before you take the class. The idea is that a professor has to hand it up to administration/someone; afterwards, it gets handed up to the state. From there, the state creates a record of the syllabus.

Now, that's what I've pieced together. But I've never been able to figure out where/who these government agencies are that have the syllabi. Doesn't anyone about this? i tried looking it up on the web once, and I just couldn't find the information.

[jpg28]

In the Philippines, well, in our University (University of Santo Tomas), our chemistry courses go something like this:

Chem 101 and 102: Undergrad General Inorganic Chemistry (taken during our first year in college)

Chem 201 and 202: Organic Chemistry I and II (sophomore)
Chem 301 and 302: Analytical Chemistry I and II (sophomore)

Chem 305: Instrumental Analysis (junior)
Chem 402 and 403: Physical Chemistry I and II (junior)
Chem 501: Industrial Chemistry I (junior)
Chem 601 and 602: Biochemistry I and II (junior)

Chem 502: Industrial Chemistry II (senior)
Chem 206: Advanced Organic Chemistry (senior)
Chem 306: Advanced Analytical Chemistry (senior)
Chem 104: Advanced Inorganic Chemistry (senior)
Chem 404: Physical Chemistry III -- more on quantum chem (senior)

So I guess the first digit changes per course/subject, while the last digit changes with respect to what level it is being taught. As for graduate school chem subjects, I've heard that they just increase the last digits and add the letters MS or GS, hehehe. Our codes here, I guess, are weird.

[ugbede]

I total agree with jpg28, the number changes inrespect to the level and ad. course.