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Arrhenius and Bronsted-lowry definitions.
« on: November 05, 2009, 01:20:39 AM »
My college book states,
"Arrhenius-Acids-"a substance that produces hydrogen ions"
"Arrhenius- Bases- "a substance that produces hydroxide ions"
"B-L- Acids- "A Proton donor"
"B-L - Bases-" A Proton receiver"

I know most things dissolve in H20. However, my teacher says H2O cannot be added into a formula to determine acids or bases because of H20 being a carrier instead of a reactant. Having see that most acids and bases have hydrogen or hydroxide components, can O or O2 be an acid or base? Im having trouble finding an element that can be categorized by the B.L. method as an acid, but not by the Arrhenius. Would O or O2 be one?


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Re: Arrhenius and Bronsted-lowry definitions.
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 03:19:48 AM »
Don't look for elements. Think in terms of ammonia - it doesn't contain oxygen, yet when added to water it produces OH-. I am not sure what your prof means, water plays important role here.
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Re: Arrhenius and Bronsted-lowry definitions.
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 03:20:28 AM »
Water is not a reactant in Arrhenius theory only.
Arrhenius theory needs acid is a neutral molecule whereus in BL theory ions are also the acids, eg NH4+
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Re: Arrhenius and Bronsted-lowry definitions.
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 02:04:30 AM »
Thank you for your help.

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