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Offline MrTeo

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Hemoglobin equilibrium
« on: July 24, 2010, 03:32:39 AM »
Hello everybody

Here's a problem on which I had some difficulties... especially in linking their request to find the pressure of CO needed to intoxicate a man with the equilibrium expression:

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Hemoglobin can combine with O2 and CO forming oxi- and carboxyhemoglobin. The equlibrium constant for this reaction:

HemO2(aq) +CO(g)⇄HemCO(aq)+O2(g)

is 200. An amount of carboxyhemoglobin equal to that of oxyhemoglobin is known to be lethal. Find the partial pressure of CO in the air (at STP) needed for this condition to verify
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Now, the equilibrium expression is (species in aqueous solution have constant vapor pressure):

$$ K=\frac{\left[O_2\right]}{\left[CO\right]} /$$

But to equal the values of HemO2 and HemCO I need to know the starting concentration of HemO2 (if we call it c the final concentration of both species will be c/2) and then find the pressure of O2 and CO using the equilibrium, that's why I think the problem lacks of necessary data.

Any opinion or advice will be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance ^^
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Re: Hemoglobin equilibrium
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 03:55:27 AM »
There is something that I can think of.

Let's say you started with 'n' moles of HemO2. Since you have n/2 moles of HemO2 and n/2 moles of HemCO in the end. You also have n/2 moles of O2.
Now, maybe you should use the equilibrium constant. But to use it, you need to know the volume of the container right? (if the experiment is carried out in a container).  Only then can you convert moles of O2 into pressure. So I too think there's insufficient data.

I'm sorry if I am terribly mistaken. I'm just a rookie...
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Re: Hemoglobin equilibrium
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 07:01:32 PM »
Well, considering that the pressure is inversely proportional to volume and that all the compounds in our chemical equation have coefficient 1, I think the volume of the container goes away when you write the equilibrium expression and only the numbers of moles of the two gases remain... anyway I agree with you when you say that there is some data missing, as we can't find out which is the amount of CO needed to intoxicate a man if we don't know how much oxi-hemoglobin was in his blood before. What do you think of this, have you any ideas to pass over this obstcle?

btw... don't worry, I'm a rookie too  ;D
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