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leyown
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Ions and Polyatomic Ions
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November 17, 2010, 02:19:21 PM »
I have a question about how polyatomic ions form?
Example: How do we go from H
2
O to H
3
O+? Wouldn't the oxygen have fulfilled the octet rule? Why would it form another bond with H?
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November 17, 2010, 02:27:00 PM »
When there are hydrogen ions (H
+
) in the solution, then the lone pair of electrons will attract the H
+
, and oxygen forms a co-ordinate bond with H
+
, thus forming H
3
O
+
.
Octet rule isn't violated
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leyown
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November 17, 2010, 02:55:47 PM »
I'm trying to picture this with an electron dot structure.
(1) Why do lone pair electrons attract H+ and other ions? Isn't the oxygen stable since it has a filled octet?
(2) The final molecular formula is H3O+. Does the + indicate that an electron has been lost on oxygen in order to form a bond with the H?
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November 26, 2010, 12:05:20 PM »
1) O is stable and has its octet completed in H
2
O but it is one of the highly electronegative atoms. Due to this reason it attracts H
+
towards itself.
2) The '+' sign is because the electron pair which initially resided on O is now being shared by O and additional H which came in the form of H
+
. O has lost no electron. It's octet is still complete! Remember that the incoming H
+
is without any electron!
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