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Sn1, E1 or E2?!
« on: December 09, 2010, 09:32:25 PM »
Can someone please help understand why the attached reaction is an SN1 reaction? I understand that that its a tertiary halide..but there is no temperature given for me to say that its an SN1 reaction or E1. I initially thought this reaction would proceed through an E2 mechanism....

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Re: Sn1, E1 or E2?!
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 06:27:13 AM »
I initially thought this reaction would proceed through an E2 mechanism....

Can you explain why you thought this? I think you have some misunderstandings here - E2 and SN2 can be ruled out immediately as they require a strong base or good nucleophile, respectively; tertiary alkyl halides are also generally too hindered for SN2.

E1 and SN1 both occur by the same stabilised tertiary carbocation intermediate. This carbocation can either be trapped by MeOH in an SN1 reaction, or MeOH may abstract a proton in an E1 reaction. Both pathways are viable, but also reversible, ie.

Alkene + MeOH + H+ <> carbocation + MeOH <> Ether + H+

As MeOH is the solvent, and therefore in vast excess I expect the eqilibrium to lie on the side of the ether (the SN1 product).
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Re: Sn1, E1 or E2?!
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 07:35:31 PM »
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Since the SN1 and E1 reactions proceed via the same carbocation intermediate, the product ratios are difficult to control and both substitution and elimination usually take place.
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