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Offline DannyBoi

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Arrow formalism confusion?
« on: January 17, 2011, 02:33:01 PM »
Hi,

I'm doing problems from Jones Organic Chemistry 4th Ed. Chapter 1, page 45. Problem 1.35 asks:

Use the arrow formalism to write resonance forms contributing to the structures for the following molecules:

For the picture attached, my solutions manual says you'd move the lone pair from the middle N to the double bond on the right to make a triple bond for the first form.

When I did it I just moved the lone pair from the Carbon to the single bond beside it and then just moved on of the double bonds to the rightmost N to make it neutral. Why is my answer incorrect compared to the solutions manual?

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Re: Arrow formalism confusion?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 12:28:00 PM »
Hint : Those structures in which an atom has a satisfied octet is more stable than those in which it doesn't.
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Re: Arrow formalism confusion?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 10:53:22 PM »
I see, thank you! I just figured my answer made more sense because it reduced the number of separate charges on the molecule, which apparently is a good thing?

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Re: Arrow formalism confusion?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 08:05:15 PM »
You want to form as many octets and have as many elements with a formal charge of 0 as possible. Generally, octets first come. There are cases where you cannot have all elements with a stable octet. For period 1 and 2 elements, though, you should never go above 8 electrons. (just like for H, you would never go over 2 electrons). The solution given will satisfy the octet requirement for all elements, although it will introduce formal charges. The solution you give violates the octet rule in a way that N will have 10 electrons around it, which is not possible.

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