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Entropy vs Temperature Relationship
« on: March 20, 2011, 05:30:57 PM »
Entropy increases with temperature so what I don't understand is S = q / t

Increasing the temperature will decrease the value of entropy according to the equation.


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Re: Entropy vs Temperature Relationship
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2011, 08:17:40 PM »
You're mixing two very different concepts here. S = q/t isn't even right. The proper form is dS = dqrev/T. It has to do with change in entropy during a thermodynamic process.

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Re: Entropy vs Temperature Relationship
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 08:56:16 PM »
Is there a simple mathematical expression to show how entropy increases with increase in temperature?

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Re: Entropy vs Temperature Relationship
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 05:44:23 PM »
This famous equation shows the relationship pretty clearly:

dG = dH - TdS

where dG is the change in Gibb's Energy and dH is the enthalpy change.

For example, if dH>0 and dS<0, the rxn will be spontaneous at all temperatures. (the reaction is spontaneous if dG<0))

If both dH and dS <0, the rxn will be spontaneous at low temperatures.

The equation you wrote looked a lot like a (wrong) version of this when dG = 0 (chemical equilibrium), for example in phase changes.

Let's assume that water freezes at exactly 273K, then

H2O(l) <---> H2O(s), and dG=0  =>

dS = dH / T

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Re: Entropy vs Temperature Relationship
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 09:16:21 PM »
This famous equation shows the relationship pretty clearly:

dG = dH - TdS

where dG is the change in Gibb's Energy and dH is the enthalpy change.

For example, if dH>0 and dS<0, the rxn will be spontaneous at all temperatures. (the reaction is spontaneous if dG<0))

If both dH and dS <0, the rxn will be spontaneous at low temperatures.

The equation you wrote looked a lot like a (wrong) version of this when dG = 0 (chemical equilibrium), for example in phase changes.

Let's assume that water freezes at exactly 273K, then

H2O(l) <---> H2O(s), and dG=0  =>

dS = dH / T

I don't think that answers his question at all...

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