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Carbo Mirakli

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Tertiary Amines & HydroFluoroCarbs
« on: September 14, 2005, 07:27:12 PM »
I have been considering the following reactions (text book problem):

[1]: R-CL + N(CH3)3 => R-N+(CH3)3Cl-

and

[2]: N(CH3)3 + HCnF2n+1 <=> N(CH3)3H+ -CnF2n+1

to get the products of [1] and [2] to yield,

[3]: R-CnF2n+1 + HCl

My problem is that I am not sure if reaction [2] will form the equilibrium shown. Can the tert amine increase the polarity of the hydrogen-carbon of the n-HydroFluoroCarbon sufficiently to yield [3] ?

I believe so but am not certain. The H-C bond should have a small polarity due to the e-withdrawing nature of the fluorines of the HFC and I feel that the tert-amine will partially donate its e-pair to the partially positive H thus augmenting the polarity of the H-C bond.


Carbo Mirakli

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Re:Tertiary Amines & HydroFluoroCarbs
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2005, 03:06:49 PM »
An example of reaction [2] using Fluoroform:

N(CH3)3 + HCF3 <=> N(CH3)3H+ -CF3
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Can anyone corroborate that this example will occur to a sufficient extent that reaction [3] will proceed ? another take on it ?

reaction [3]:

R-N+(CH3)3Cl- + N(CH3)3H+ -CF3 => R-CF3 + HCl

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