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Molecular or ionic compounds
« on: June 03, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
Hello, This is my first post to this forum, so don´t take so hard on me. I have a definition problem, mainly.
The activity was the following.
"Of these chemical species in equilibrium, which ones are molecular compounds and which ones are ionic compounds"
and the species were [Na+] [H2CO3] [HCO3-1] [CO3-2] [OH-] [H+]

Any help would be great!


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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 07:08:47 PM »
Stupid question IMHO. The simplest approach - these charged must be ionic.
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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 07:15:30 PM »
Haha  ;D, yeah that's what I said, but the teacher started talking nosense about all being molecular...  she is really a crazy one... thanks!

PD: I'm still learning english, that's the cause of the cheap writing... sorry  8)

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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 05:05:40 AM »
Especially Na+ is a molecule.
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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 07:16:43 AM »
The question really isn't confusing at all, but if your teacher is saying they are all molecular then you should ask exactly why.


Some explanations in analytical chemistry can sound a bit nutty....


I can see the others being molecular, but Na+ is a metal so it would inevitably be ionic wouldn't it? Hmmm...

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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2011, 12:35:17 PM »
Of course,  I think that Na+ and H+ are ions (they´re not molecular at all)

The ionization of the acid is the problem, they´re all polytomic ions and also molecules - it depends in how you take the definition of molecule-... in some cases it says that a molecule must be a neutral charged one.

So, I answered the problem (it was a exam) saying that H2CO3 was the only molecular compound, and the rest were ions.

Seriously, it sounds like an easy question, but it´s really confusing.  . Probably it was a damn tricky one...
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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2011, 03:57:27 PM »
Probably it was a damn tricky one...

By my book it is not tricky, just ambiguous.
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Re: Molecular or ionic compounds
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2011, 04:32:38 PM »
Probably it was a damn tricky one...

By my book it is not tricky, just ambiguous.

Ambiguous it´s enough tricky for me :-X...

So... we should consider [HCO3-1] [CO3-2] as ionic or molecular species??


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