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Prepare alkyl pyridine
« on: June 09, 2012, 09:12:28 AM »
Please help me, how to prepare 2-ethylpyridine from pyrindine?

I think EtLi can react directly with pyridine to form 2-ethylpyridine, can't it?

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 09:31:20 AM »
Please help me, how to prepare 2-ethylpyridine from pyrindine?

I think EtLi can react directly with pyridine to form 2-ethylpyridine, can't it?

Ethyllithium will not substitute for hydrogen at any position of the pyridine ring.
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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 10:10:31 AM »
So how to prepare 2-ethylpyridine from pyrindine?
Tks in advance :)

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 10:17:21 AM »
So how to prepare 2-ethylpyridine from pyrindine?
Tks in advance :)

Well, do you have any ideas? Forum rules require you to have made an effort. This so we can see your thinking and gently push you in the right direction if required.

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 11:15:39 AM »
I suggest pyridine react with acetaldehyde/ OH-

2-CH2CHO-C5H5N reduce with Zn(Hg)/HCl to form 2-ethylpyridine.?

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 11:21:16 AM »
I suggest pyridine react with acetaldehyde/ OH-

2-CH2CHO-C5H5N reduce with Zn(Hg)/HCl to form 2-ethylpyridine.?

Perhaps one could start from the pyridone? Or picoline (2-methylpyridine). Or even pyridine.
have a look at this link.

http://131.104.156.23/Lectures/7113/7113_Literature/FMC%20Lithium%20pdf/Pyridines.pdf
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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 01:33:07 PM »
Please help me, how to prepare 2-ethylpyridine from pyrindine?

I think EtLi can react directly with pyridine to form 2-ethylpyridine, can't it?

I am guessing this reaction was presented in your class or your textbook. It is shown in Scheme 1 of the reference linked by discodermolide. Obviously, it gives a dihydropyridine product and would need re-aromatization. You may also react an alpha-halopyridine, chloro or better fluoro with an ethyllithium which can eliminate to give your desired product, but this reaction may not have been covered in your textbook.
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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 09:58:37 PM »
How to substitute halogen at alpha-position of pyridine? if you SE it only substitute at beta-position :(

I suggest pyridine react with acetaldehyde/ OH-

2-CH2CHO-C5H5N reduce with Zn(Hg)/HCl to form 2-ethylpyridine.?

How about this way, is it possible?

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 12:26:26 AM »
How to substitute halogen at alpha-position of pyridine? if you SE it only substitute at beta-position :(

I suggest pyridine react with acetaldehyde/ OH-

2-CH2CHO-C5H5N reduce with Zn(Hg)/HCl to form 2-ethylpyridine.?

How about this way, is it possible?

You will need a stronger base than OH- to do this. I think the product will then eliminate to give the olefin. Which you can try and hydrogenate to your product.
Did you look at the link I provided above?
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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 11:19:55 PM »
I suggest another way:
Pyridine---> Pyridine N-oxide + KCN/MeOH ----> 2-cyanopyridine ---1) H2O2 2) CH3Cl---> 2-ethylpyridine.
Is it feasible?

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 11:51:26 PM »
I suggest another way:
Pyridine---> Pyridine N-oxide + KCN/MeOH ----> 2-cyanopyridine ---1) H2O2 2) CH3Cl---> 2-ethylpyridine.
Is it feasible?

Anything is feasible, the question is, is it correct?
What are you aiming for by treating cyanopyridine with H2O2 and then chloroform? I think something is missing here.
I don't see a reductive step to regenerate the pyridine from the N-oxide.
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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2012, 01:22:51 AM »
Wonderful, tks u so much discodermolide :X

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Re: Prepare alkyl pyridine
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2012, 01:38:21 AM »
Wonderful, tks u so much discodermolide :X

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