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Molar mass of a liquid
« on: August 24, 2012, 11:02:16 AM »
Sample of a volatile liquid (m=0.115g), after evaporating in an apparatus, squeezed out 22cm3 of air, whose temperature above water is 300K, and the level of water in the gas burette was 210mm higher than the level of water in a pneumatic tub. A pressure of 1bar was measured. What is the molar mass of the liquid?

Not sure where to start from, and how to use the 210mm?

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 11:40:28 AM »
Somewhere and somehow you have to account for the pressure of 210 mmH2O.
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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 12:20:11 PM »
How to convert that to pascals?
pV=nRT I have p, T and V (those 220ml or the squeezed 22ml)?

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 12:49:56 PM »
p=2.06Pa, I use it to calculate the number of moles of the gas, but what then?

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 10:21:12 AM »
p=2.06Pa, I use it to calculate the number of moles of the gas, but what then?

Remember molar mass is defined as Mass/Moles. You have the amount of moles and the question provided the total mass of the sample (m=0.115g). From these you can easily determine the molar mass

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 12:48:05 PM »
The pressure is 2.06Pa and the volume is 22ml. With these low numbers I can't get a reasonable answer (the correct one is 138.2).

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 01:40:09 PM »
ρH2O=996.512 kg/m3 @27 C

Pambient-Pburette=ρgh
Pambient-Pburette=2052.9 (Pa)

Pambient=1bar=105 Pa

Pburette=97.947E3 Pa

n=PV/RT
n=8.639E-4 gmol

M=m/n=133.1 gm/gmol

I still can't figure out where my small disagreement with your reported answer is..

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2012, 05:41:27 AM »
It is probably the density. Thanks for the answer, only I don't understand how is the volume of air (V=22ml) related with the number of moles of the liquid. Why is n of air equal to n of the liquid?

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2012, 06:34:37 AM »
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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 07:51:36 AM »
I knew the law, but I didn't know how to use here. I have an apparatus filled with the liquid at the bottom and the apparatus is open (so air gets in). When the liquid evaporates it squeezes 22ml of air from the apparatus, meaning that 22ml of a gas was produced. How is the volume of squeezed air measured?

And I don't understand what curiouscat wrote about the pressures. Precisely the ambient pressure.
The gas is taken into a gas burette, so the increase in pressure increases the height of water and the pressure in the burette is the sum of the water pressure and the gas pressure. Shouldn't it be pburette=pgas+pwater?

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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2012, 09:48:05 AM »
When the liquid was evaporated is squeezed out 22 mL of the gas. Why does it matter how it was measured? You know liquid produced 22 mL of the gas, which is all you need to calculate number of moles.

That is, after you will get this pressure thing right.
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Re: Molar mass of a liquid
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2012, 11:02:24 AM »
I was just curious, but I guess all in good time.

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