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Reaction under Inert Gas
« on: September 26, 2012, 02:13:48 PM »
Hi guys,

I am doing a reaction under inert gas so I am using syringes with needles to transfer my chemicals into my RBF.

What is the proper technique when using syringes. I heard that it is good practise to insert syringe into RBF to absorb some argon so my syringe does not contain any atmosphere gas.

Is this true?

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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 02:18:13 PM »
Yes this true. You simply flush out the air in the syringe with inert gas a couple of times. Then fill it again with the inert gas and inject it into the bottle. This creates a slight overpressure in the bottle which helps fill the syringe. You only do this if you are syringing smallish quantities, < 10mL otherwise you will create too much overpressure. Then you need to move to a canula.

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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 02:25:03 PM »
Then fill it again with the inert gas and inject it into the bottle.

Does "into the bottle" refer to the bottle with my chemical? :)

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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 02:28:51 PM »
Yes it does.
I say this because if you don't do this by simply syringing out the liquid you will create a partial vacuum, and if the volume is largish you will not get it out. Thus by injecting the inert gas you prevent this.
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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 02:40:21 PM »
Thanks!

Also, as a side note sometimes when I take chemicals out of my bottle I can't tell if I got any liquid out. How can I tell if I actually have sucked up some chemical in my syringe?

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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 02:47:02 PM »
Look at what goes into the syringe. Or hold the bottle up to a light and see where the needle is in relation to the liquid.
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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 02:54:30 PM »
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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 02:57:04 PM »
No problem:))
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Re: Reaction under Inert Gas
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 03:08:26 PM »
I'm learning so many fun tricks today, I usually keep the reagent under a little N2 pressure, while drawing out of the bottle.  I think this way will be much faster though, and prevent overpressurizing the reagent bottle (and syringe).

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