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How are acid dissociation constants determined?
« on: February 07, 2013, 11:51:11 AM »
How are acid dissociation constants determined (measured), especially in the case of a polyprotic acid like H3PO4?  Is this discussed online, and if so, where?  I am under the impression that the answer might involve measurements of pH, osmotic pressure and electrical conductivity, but I don't know enough details to satisfy my curiousity.

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Re: How are acid dissociation constants determined?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 05:50:39 PM »
Do you know how they are determined for a monoprotic acids? Quite often the same methods can be used for multiprotic acids.

Note there is no single method - there are many ways to skin that cat.
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Re: How are acid dissociation constants determined?
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 10:23:22 PM »
The acid dissociation constant is unique for each ion. H3PO4 will have a much larger Ka than H2PO4 1-, which in turn will have a much larger Ka than HPO4 2-. These individual values can be found online or in a table. Does that help?

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Re: How are acid dissociation constants determined?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2013, 04:10:22 AM »
These individual values can be found online or in a table. Does that help?

I strongly doubt "find in a table" qualifies as "determine".
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Re: How are acid dissociation constants determined?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 01:29:21 AM »

I strongly doubt "find in a table" qualifies as "determine".

You misunderstood the wording of my answer. The "does that help?" does not have to do with looking up in tables; I meant for that to refer to my earlier statement.
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Re: How are acid dissociation constants determined?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 03:30:19 AM »
I was referring to

These individual values can be found online or in a table.

And I still support what I wrote: "find in a table" doesn't qualify as "determine".
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