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Offline Murka

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Can't wrap head around Normal Concentration.
« on: May 03, 2013, 01:00:33 PM »
Hey guys, I know it's a bit embarrasing, but one thing I just couldn't wrap my head around during my 3 years at the uni is Normal Concentration...I'm just about to finish and I still don't understand it!
I use Molar concentration whenever possible, yet I understand that it's unacceptable...so I came here for your help :)

I'm having a lab soon where I'll be determining the concentration of Hydrogen Peroxide using the following reaction with Permanganate:
2MnO4- + 5H2O2 + 6H+  :rarrow: 2Mn2+ + 5O2 + 8H2O

The Permanganate is given as 0.1N
The Peroxide is said to be ~0.2N

So, how do I work with normal concentrations? Would just N1V1=N2V2 work here? How do I convert those to Molars later on? (For the lab report)

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Re: Can't wrap head around Normal Concentration.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 03:09:09 PM »
No.  The concentration of a 1.0 N solution depends on what the substance is.  Sorry, I know it sounds terrible, but that's the way it works.  If you want to, you should first convert to molarity, then try to compare the two solutions.
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Re: Can't wrap head around Normal Concentration.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 05:04:58 PM »
Using molar concentrations is perfectly OK. Normal are sometimes more convenient, but molarity is never wrong, while normality can be ambiguous.

0.1N permanganate is most likely 0.02M, as it accepts 5 electrons to produce Mn2+.

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Re: Can't wrap head around Normal Concentration.
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2013, 05:53:27 AM »
Using molar concentrations is perfectly OK. Normal are sometimes more convenient, but molarity is never wrong, while normality can be ambiguous.

0.1N permanganate is most likely 0.02M, as it accepts 5 electrons to produce Mn2+.

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To me Normality is more of a "shortcut". Personally I avoid using it as well.

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