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Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« on: July 09, 2013, 11:42:58 AM »
Question: A student collected four different samples of a substance and generated a Mass vs. Volume graph. What is the density of the student's sample?

When the samples are graphed, the graph indicates: y = 0.784x. Is the density the same as the slope? Therefore, would the density be 0.784 g/ML?

Info from four samples:
Volume = 2.19, Mass = 1.80
Volume = 5.57, Mass = 4.13
Volume = 8.34, Mass = 6.70
Volume = 4.08, Mass = 3.15

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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 01:36:30 PM »
Theoretically, at constant temperature and pressure the density must be independent from the mass of the system (so the constant before x must be 1). The "0,784x" is caused by the inaccurate measurement.
I think, he should calculate independent density values, and use them to calculate an average.
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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 01:42:43 PM »
Theoretically, at constant temperature and pressure the density must be independent from the mass of the system (so the constant before x must be 1). The "0,784x" is caused by the inaccurate measurement.

Wrong. The constant is the density!

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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 01:47:23 PM »
OK, you're right. I misunderstood something.
But how calculates y=0,784x equation? What is "x"?
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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 01:40:23 PM »
I'm not sure what "x" is, other than an unknown variable in the slope equation "y=mx+b". The equation for slope here is y=0.784x, but I don't know how to derive the answer from the equation or data.

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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 02:21:04 PM »
mass = 0.784 * volume
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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 12:56:59 AM »
Question: A student collected four different samples of a substance and generated a Mass vs. Volume graph. What is the density of the student's sample?

I'm not sure what "x" is, other than an unknown variable in the slope equation "y=mx+b". The equation for slope here is y=0.784x, but I don't know how to derive the answer from the equation or data.

In this we're setting our massto our y-coordinate and our volume to our x-coordinate. So here we can read our y=mx+b in terms of physical properties as:
Mass=m*Volume + b.
Where m is a property that relates the mass of the sample to its volume and b is the initial volume of the sample without mass. Given a sample with no mass also has no volume we can set b=0(basically we have the boundary condition that when x=0 y must also equal 0). The physical property that relates mass to volume to mass is known as density therefore equation simply becomes:
Mass = Density * Volume

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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 06:08:49 AM »
Okay, understand. But my excel calculated 0,794 instead 0,784 :)
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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 01:35:43 PM »
Okay, understand. But my excel calculated 0,794 instead 0,784 :)
Note in the equation excel has provided does not have b=0. If you use the LINEST command and fix the intercept to 0 you do indeed get 0.784.

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Re: Density of a Mass vs. Volume Graph
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2013, 03:27:11 PM »
Thanks, I've learned something today too.
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