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Offline fran008

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Tertiary alcohols
« on: February 19, 2006, 06:29:14 AM »
Are tertiary alcohols oxidised If so how does this happen?
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2006, 06:40:27 AM »
No, they aren't: they are stable in solutions of oxidizing agents, unless you manage to break a C-C bond...but this means yielding a secondary alcohol. :D
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2006, 02:17:14 PM »
There's no *H* for it to happen...or something like that.
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2006, 03:12:02 PM »
Tertiary alcohols can sometimes be oxidized by especially strong oxidants under certain conditions, but it's rare.
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2006, 10:45:05 PM »
what do you mean by certai condition?
the preasure?pH?temperature?...
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2006, 10:46:42 PM »
what do you mean by certai condition?
the preasure?pH?temperature?...

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many master said like that but they do not mention/describe the condition.
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2006, 11:42:49 AM »
Quote from: baikuza on February 19, 2006, 10:46:42 PM
what do you mean by certai condition?
the preasure?pH?temperature?...
I think that pressure and temperature are required conditions
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2006, 11:43:32 PM »
Quote from: Alberto_Kravina on February 20, 2006, 11:42:49 AM
I think that pressure and temperature are required conditions

i'm thinking the same. but what preasure...
an unussual condition? :-\
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2006, 08:10:46 PM »
they're usually not oxidized because they contain no H atom attached to the carbon with the OH group.
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2006, 10:57:20 AM »
Quote from: movies on February 19, 2006, 03:12:02 PM
Tertiary alcohols can sometimes be oxidized by especially strong oxidants under certain conditions, but it's rare.

What functional group can we expect on the oxidation of ter. Alcohols?
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2006, 11:54:53 AM »
I presume Aldehydes and/or Ketones...but I'm not sure! :)
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Re:Tertiary alcohols
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2006, 01:16:20 PM »
Yeah, primarily ketones.  Forming a peroxide would also be a formal oxidation.

One example of oxidation of a tertiary alcohol would be treatment of a diol like pinacol with Pb(OAc)4 to yield acetone.
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