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Offline veselin

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I have problem with my amide (DCC coupling)
« on: October 25, 2013, 01:54:25 PM »
I am using DCC for coupling N-Boc-glycine and 2-iodo-aniline (THF,RT, over night) - it works with aniline and N-Boc-glycine.

In GC/MS (from reaction mixture) I don't see product (there is no peak in chromatogram), dominant iz DCU (mass 224, 45 %). There is something with mass 200 (10%) and I don't know what is it. There is sth mass 125 (12 %) and 2-Iodo-aniline (32%). Does anybody know what is happening and why I don't see product?

I did this reaction with N-Boc-glycine and aniline (yeald over 50%) and I saw product in GC/MS (also I saw sth with mass 200 and 125).

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Re: I have problem with my amide (DCC coupling)
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 04:31:28 PM »
Sounds like the iodine kills the nucleophilicity of the aniline. 2-iodoaniline has a pKa of 2.6 while aniline is 4.6 - that is, aniline is 100 times more basic. This is some combination of the steric bulk of the iodine, the iodine serving as a through-space electron acceptor (halogen bond acceptor), and the iodine being an electron withdrawing group. (It looks like a bit more than half of it is through-space effects, since pKa of 4-iodoaniline is 3.8)

So, iodoaniline isn't as good a nucleophile. Darn. Try adding DMAP.

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Re: I have problem with my amide (DCC coupling)
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 05:03:47 PM »
I added DMAP (in aniline and iodo-aniline case), but I have forgotten to mention it :(

I ll try some other way to obtain that amide ;)

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Re: I have problem with my amide (DCC coupling)
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2013, 10:16:31 AM »
Could the reaction just be sluggish?  How much time are you giving it?

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Re: I have problem with my amide (DCC coupling)
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2013, 11:01:14 AM »
Isn't the formation of DCU from DCC evidence that the reaction has proceeded (or has it been formed from adventitious water) ??

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