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Offline MJF

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How many carbon atoms are in the unknown compound?
« on: November 11, 2013, 12:39:48 PM »
A mass spectrum of an unknown compound has a molecular ion peak with a relative intensity of 43.27% and a M+1 peak with a relative intensity of 3.81%. How many C atoms are present in the compound?

a. 8  b. 4  c. 6  d. 2

I recalled from lecture that when dealing with M+1 peak, we used this formula:

intensity of M+1 peak / 0.011 = number of C atoms (important to round to the nearest whole number)

So I dealt with: 0.0381 / 0.011 = 3.46

I decided to go with Choice B since that seemed the closest, however, the correct answer was Choice A and I don't have a clue why. Some help please?

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Re: How many carbon atoms are in the unknown compound?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 01:55:10 PM »
You haven't included the intensity of the 12C peak in your calculation.
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Re: How many carbon atoms are in the unknown compound?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 02:09:36 PM »
It is the ratio of the M peak to the M+1 peak that is used to estimate the C atom count.

Thus, 43.27/3.81 = 11.3; natural abundance of 13C is 1.08%---this is usually rounded to 1.1% to allow for 2H,17O etc.

Then, 11.3/1.1 = 10 and answer A = 8 is the closest value.

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Re: How many carbon atoms are in the unknown compound?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 03:53:16 PM »
It is the ratio of the M peak to the M+1 peak that is used to estimate the C atom count.

Thus, 43.27/3.81 = 11.3; natural abundance of 13C is 1.08%---this is usually rounded to 1.1% to allow for 2H,17O etc.

Then, 11.3/1.1 = 10 and answer A = 8 is the closest value.

Yeah you're right Motoball. I apparently wrote the formula down during lecture but forgot about multiplying the intensity. Won't make that mistake again

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Re: How many carbon atoms are in the unknown compound?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 04:42:10 PM »
It is the ratio of the M peak to the M+1 peak that is used to estimate the C atom count.

Thus, 43.27/3.81 = 11.3; natural abundance of 13C is 1.08%---this is usually rounded to 1.1% to allow for 2H,17O etc.

Then, 11.3/1.1 = 10 and answer A = 8 is the closest value.


No, this is not correct.

3.81(M+1)/43.27(M)*100 = 8.81% 13C

8.81/1.1=8 Carbons

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Re: How many carbon atoms are in the unknown compound?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 10:03:22 PM »
Archer, thanks for spotting my error; I had reversed the ratios.

MJF, take the (M+1)/M ratio, not as I had written.

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