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rk2938
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I don't understand how there was a abstraction of hydrogen from a vinyl location. I do get how the first product is formed. Not the second one.
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Reading text and from my knowledge of chemistry, this is a bona fide error in the book.
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It is an allylic abstraction not an allylic abstraction. There is no vinyl abstraction taking place.
This almost certainly done at increased temperatures. The homolytic cleavage of the allylic bond forms a resonance stablilized radical forming the mixture of products.
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December 23, 2013, 10:25:13 AM »
God, Im an idiot.
I see it now. Yes that answer is wrong as drawn. But the chemistry is sound.
They would be different with respect to the labeled C13, however.
I apologize.
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