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Offline Radu

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electronic configuration
« on: February 27, 2014, 03:15:29 PM »
 We have the electronic configurations: Ni:[Ar]3d84s2;
                                                         Pd:[Kr]4d10
                                                         Pt:[Xe]4f145d96s1

     Can anybody explain me why Pt chooses to be paramgnetic? I know that the energy differences between different shields are lowering with the increase of n, so that's why 4d gets fully occupied at Pd. But why Pt:[Xe]4f145d96s1 and not 5d10?

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Re: electronic configuration
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 06:53:18 PM »
Magnetism is a molecular property. Atomic orbitals won't tell you much about the metal.

Examples: austenitic stainless steel, with Fe Cr Ni, isn't ferromagnetic, unless cold-worked.
But Mn Zn "ferrites" are used everyday as magnetic cores.

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Re: electronic configuration
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 01:18:47 PM »
 I don't think I understand. Are you saying that the magnetic measurements used to determine the electronic structures have been conducted on sheets of metal on atoms rather than on atoms and that the results were showing the behaviour of the "molecular" Pt instead of an Pt atom? Or what?
  I am looking more for a quantum mechanics reason.

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Re: electronic configuration
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 10:03:09 AM »
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Re: electronic configuration
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 08:39:48 AM »
Oops, atoms.

We had a discussion on chemicalforums about the scandium to zinc group, and it was already a mess. By including the repulsion of electrons within a single orbital, plus some interaction among two shells, it was possible to reproduce more or less the filling sequence. But I doubt any prediction can be made for heavier atoms.

"QM reason"... The filling sequence resulting from repulsions, hence from geometric details, it won't be a simple consideration on quantum numbers.

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