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Offline CuSO4

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Is this the reaction that makes CuSO4 acidic?
« on: May 22, 2014, 06:42:10 AM »
Cu2+ + 2H2::equil:: Cu(OH)2 + 2H3O+

I know that CuSO4 is acidic, but it doesn't have any hydrogen atoms in it, so this is the only way I can see it making a acidic solution.

My thinking is that since Cu(OH)2 is weakly basic, this reaction also can go the other way and be a acid too.

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Re: Is this the reaction that makes CuSO4 acidic?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2014, 07:10:30 AM »
No.  This sort of question is popular lately.  An acid has have a proton to donate only if you use the traditional Arrhenius definition of acid:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid-base_reaction#Arrhenius_definition  But many substances raise or lower pH without ionizing into H+ or OH-.  Some change pH by pulling something away, that is acting as a Bronsted-Lowery or Lewis acid or base. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%B8nsted%E2%80%93Lowry_acid%E2%80%93base_theory#Bronsted_concept_and_Lewis_acids.2Fbases.  This is how transition metal slats have a slightly acidic pH.
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Re: Is this the reaction that makes CuSO4 acidic?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2014, 02:46:22 PM »
My thinking is that since Cu(OH)2 is weakly basic, this reaction also can go the other way and be a acid too.

That's true but this makes Cu(OH)2 a (weak) base, not Cu2+ - which is still an acid, because its hydrolysis leads to production of protons.

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Re: Is this the reaction that makes CuSO4 acidic?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2014, 04:02:13 PM »
I meant to say that Cu2+ is slightly acidic not Cu(OH)2. So the reaction i wrote is correct?

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Re: Is this the reaction that makes CuSO4 acidic?
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 10:54:50 AM »
This is how my professor explained acidity of salts to me:
CuSO4 is a salt formed when combining Cu(OH)2 and H2SO4.
Cu(OH)2 + H2SO4  :rarrow: CuSO4 + 2H2O
If you look at the two reactants, Copper(II) hydroxide is a weak base, but Sulfuric(VI) acid is a really strong acid. Because of that difference, a salt of those two would be acidic.
Example: kitchen salt(NaCl) is a salt of sodium hydroxide, a strong base, and hydrochloric acid, which is a strong acid. That makes kitchen salt neutral.
baking soda(NaHCO3) is a salt of sodium hydroxide, again a strong base, and carbonic acid, which is weak. That makes baking soda basic.
None of the alkali metals have acidic salts, because alkali metal hydroxides are very strong bases. Most transition metal salts are acidic though, because transition metal hydroxides are relatively weak bases.

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