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Offline ThatGuy

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Equilibrium Problem
« on: June 09, 2014, 05:19:39 PM »
Find the pH of a solution formed by dissolving 0.100 moles of HC2H3O2 with a Ka of 1.8 x 10-5 and 0.200 moles of NaC2H3O2(s) in a total volume of 2.5 L.

Chemical Equation:

CH3COOH(aq) + NaC2H3O2(s) ↔ Na+(aq) + CH3COO-(aq) + H+ (aq)

Initial Concentration of CH3COOH(aq) : 0.100 moles / 2.5 L = 0.040 M

Initial Concentration of NaC2H3O2(s) : 0.200 moles / 2.5 L = 0.080 M

Ka = 1.8 x 10-5 = ((x)(2x)2(x)) / ((0.040)(0.080))
 
x = 0.01095 M

pH = -log (0.01095) = 1.96

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 01:08:55 AM »
Use Henderson Hasselbalch Equation for this.

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 02:30:38 PM »
I haven't learned the Henderson Hasselbalch Equation yet, although I have googled it.

Is it wrong to approach the problem in the manner I initially did?

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 02:56:48 PM »
HH will make it easier. It will not be the only way though.
As Borek (I may be mistaken) pointed to me a while ago, HH is derived from the definition of K.

Firstly, the concentration of solids is not taken into account. See what you did?

Both sodium and acetate usually make salts with high solubility in water. NaC2H3O2 is really soluble.
As everything here is an approximation, let's say it is 100% soluble.

Lastly, write Ka symbolically. What is Ka? Does it take [Na+] into account?

What is you equilibrium equation now?

What is your new answer?

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Re: Equilibrium Problem
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2014, 04:34:01 PM »
Is it wrong to approach the problem in the manner I initially did?

I am afraid yes, it is off. You wrote some random equation, you assumed for no apparent reason that its equilibrium constant will be that of acetic acid dissociation, then you plugged in some numbers and an unknown, which you for no apparent reason assume will describe concentrations of all substances present (as if they were guaranteed to be equal). This is pretty random, it can't yield a correct result.

mafagafo is right, HH equation is a rearranged dissociation constant, just written in a way that makes pH calculation of some solutions pretty easy. It will work here perfectly well.
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