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Offline davidenarb

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Are moderate activators electron donating?
« on: July 24, 2014, 07:55:07 AM »
Hi Chemists!!

In the bellow figure, we have a resonance structure of a moderate activator.

From the arrows of the resonance structures, it seems that that moderate activator is an electron-withdrawing group since an electron density is pointing away from the ring withdrawing thereby an electron density from the ring, so I would like to understand how it can be an activator!!?

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Re: Are moderate activators electron donating?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 08:13:26 AM »
Try pushing the O lone pair the other way, in towards the ring and draw the resonance structures.
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Re: Are moderate activators electron donating?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 08:20:52 AM »
Try pushing the O lone pair the other way, in towards the ring and draw the resonance structures.

In that way, yes I do agree that it's an activator, but how can a lone pair of resonance can have two directions of electron density?

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Re: Are moderate activators electron donating?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 08:32:33 AM »
What you have drawn is just another one of the possible resonance structures. Move the aromatic protons towards the positive oxygen, leaving a + charge on the ring carbon. See what you get.

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Re: Are moderate activators electron donating?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 08:57:23 AM »
What you have drawn is just another one of the possible resonance structures. Move the aromatic protons towards the positive oxygen, leaving a + charge on the ring carbon. See what you get.

so I am curious to know the difference between a strong activator and moderate activator?? 

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