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Removal of acid after amidation
« on: August 01, 2014, 10:01:13 AM »
Dear all,

I have a question about how to remove the acid after the amidation reaction. I used an excess of acid chloride for the amidation. And afterwards I washed many times with water and a base (sodium bicarbonate). I then did a flash chromatoography to get my product. The TLC showed a single spot, but the final product is a sticky gel, with the smell of my acid which i recognize it is the acid I used as starting material.

 Repeating the extraction process with the base does not seem to work. I suppose the product is a powder, while I did the same reaction to a similar compound, except this one has 2 bromine groups.

I wonder what I have done wrong?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Re: Removal of acid after amidation
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 10:03:23 AM »
Some acid chlorides are remarkably resilient to hydrolysis. You don't mention which one you used.
Perhaps use dilute NaOH to remove the excess acid chloride.
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Re: Removal of acid after amidation
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 10:10:41 AM »
Can you use the free acid or the acid chloride as TLC standards?

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Re: Removal of acid after amidation
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 10:13:33 AM »
I used Hexanoyl chloride.

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Re: Removal of acid after amidation
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2014, 10:21:32 AM »
Some acid chlorides are remarkably resilient to hydrolysis. You don't mention which one you used.
Perhaps use dilute NaOH to remove the excess acid chloride.

I tried to use diluted NaOH to remove the acid , but the amide is easily hydrolyzed..

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Re: Removal of acid after amidation
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2014, 10:23:17 AM »
How easily? What happened to the product?
It should survive dilute NaOH at rt. Or do the extraction at 4°C.
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Re: Removal of acid after amidation
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 09:18:25 PM »
If you cannot remove excess acid chloride, use less acid chloride. It may be easier to recycle recovered amine.
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