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21 MAY 2004: Boiling Point of Similar Molecules
« on: May 20, 2004, 01:51:12 PM »
Please explain why the molecular weight is not a reliable predictor of the molecule's boiling point, yet for some series of closely related molecules (eg. halogen) it's true that heavier molecules translate to higher boiling point.
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Re:21 MAY 2004: Boiling Point of Similar Molecules
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2004, 03:06:27 PM »
Molecular weight is not a reliable predictor in terms of molecules since a molecule can have VERY different polarities and crystal packing due to the shape and arrangement of the atoms.  In terms of just pure elements, then the molecular weight does come into effect since they would all be non-polar since the molecules, in the halogens for instance, would really have no polarity.  (Since two atoms of the same element would create a completely non-polar bond, I believe).  
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Re:21 MAY 2004: Boiling Point of Similar Molecules
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2004, 05:46:39 AM »
For halogens, molecular weight is rather quite good predictor of boiling point.
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Re:21 MAY 2004: Boiling Point of Similar Molecules
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2004, 10:02:17 AM »
Boiling point of a covalent (molecular) substance is dependent on the strength of the intermolecular bonds. The stronger the intermolecular bonds, the more energy needed to overcome them and thus the higher the boiling point.

Such intermolecular bond depends on two main type of interaction: tempory-dipole-temporary-dipole interaction and permanent-dipole-permanent-dipole interaction.

The strength of the former depends on the size of the molecular electron cloud. The more electrons the molecule contain, the stronger is this type of intermolecular interaction. One can note that the heavier the molecular weight, the higher the number of electrons present and thus the higher the strength of this particular intermolecular interaction.

The strength of the later would depends on the electronegativity difference in the polar bond present in the molecule, and thus the strength of this form of interaction. Generally, polar compounds would have higer boiling point than covalent compounds of the same molecular weight (eg. NH3 is liquid while CH4 is gas at stp.)

These two factors would contribute together to the overall strength of intermolecular bonding. Since temporary-dipole-temporary-dipole is not the only form of interaction and it isnt the most dominant form of intermolecular interaction for all cases, molecular weight would thus not be a reliable predictor for boiling point for all molecular substances.

In the case of halogens, they possess similar structure and intermolecular bonding. Futhurmore, the dominant form form of intermolecular interaction is temporaryd-dipole-temporary-dipole interaction. Hence. molecular weight is a good predictor for the boiling point of halogens.
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Re:21 MAY 2004: Boiling Point of Similar Molecules
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2004, 12:27:45 PM »
Actually, I believe that ammonia's standard state at room temperature and pressure is a gas.  You can cool it down to a liquid, kind of like nitrogen, and it will stay in a liquid form but it will quickly evaporate into a gas.
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Re:21 MAY 2004: Boiling Point of Similar Molecules
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2006, 12:55:26 PM »
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Such intermolecular bond depends on two main type of interaction: tempory-dipole-temporary-dipole interaction and permanent-dipole-permanent-dipole interaction.


Don't forget about hydrogen bonding!

It's why the boiling point of H2O is so amazingly high compared
to its molecular weight... ::)

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