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Bismuth
« on: April 26, 2015, 01:04:16 AM »
How dangerous is it to work with hydrochloride acid. I have a quality face mask and gloves and have made thermite (hopefully waiting magnesium in the mail -_-) but want to make sure I'm ok to work with it.

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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 05:32:00 AM »
As long as you follow security - gloves, glasses for eye protection, coat, fume hood or at least doing you experiments in the open air - hydrochloric acid is not more dangerous than most other acids.

Any particular reason to name this thread "bismuth"?
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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2015, 03:44:36 PM »
Yeah sorry haha that was vague, I'm using hydrochloric acid to remove bismuth from pepto bismal

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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 07:54:34 PM »
Yeah sorry haha that was vague, I'm using hydrochloric acid to remove bismuth from pepto bismal

And how exactly does that work?  What reaction are you hoping will happen?  These are important questions to ask, if you want to learn something when you're done.
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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2015, 03:01:07 PM »
 The reaction of Pepto bismol and hydrochloric acid breaks away to bismuth and hydrochloric acid compound in which you add  aluminum which replaces the bismuth  then strain it leaving behind the raw bismuth for you to melt down

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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 03:18:33 PM »
I've found evidence that that reaction probably won't happen, and that there's a simpler way to get the reaction you want, over here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismuth_subsalicylate#Decomposition
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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2015, 03:31:36 PM »
How interesting, what I gathered from it is all I need to do is hit it with a blowtorch?

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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2015, 05:35:02 PM »
Apparently so.  What I can't find is concentration of active in a typical formulation of medicine.  I suspect it will b e a very small ingot.
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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2015, 09:19:20 PM »
Very interesting. I'll probably try this out sooner I'll let you know the results – on a side note I bet a whole ball would probably-year-old three cubic ingot or the equivalent.

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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2015, 09:51:36 AM »
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cubic ingot
For an instant I was amused thinking you meant cubit
Still not sure what you meant
WIKI has several meanings for cubic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic

Can we assume you are adding Bismuth to your collection?

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Re: Bismuth
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2015, 10:57:07 AM »
Hahahaha I forget to say inch my bad. Yes I do chemistry as a hobby and bismuth is one of the coolest metals I've seen so far.

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