November 22, 2024, 11:36:37 AM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Grignard  (Read 3875 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline orgo814

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 412
  • Mole Snacks: +11/-6
Grignard
« on: July 09, 2015, 11:56:10 PM »
Sorry if this picture is sideways my device has problems uploading correctly.

For this question the answer according to the book is D. I do not see how D is possible. I am getting B when I do this. Thanks for any input

Offline discodermolide

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5038
  • Mole Snacks: +405/-70
  • Gender: Male
    • My research history
Re: Grignard
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 01:27:14 AM »
Alcohols react with Grignard reagents, what do they produce?
Development Chemists do it on Scale, Research Chemists just do it!
My Research History

Offline orgo814

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 412
  • Mole Snacks: +11/-6
Re: Grignard
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2015, 08:39:49 AM »
All I know is they can react into carbonyl adding more C-C bonds

Offline Dan

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4716
  • Mole Snacks: +469/-72
  • Gender: Male
  • Organic Chemist
    • My research
Re: Grignard
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2015, 09:48:01 AM »
All I know is they can react into carbonyl adding more C-C bonds

What happens if you add water to a Grignard reagent?
My research: Google Scholar and Researchgate

Offline Babcock_Hall

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5705
  • Mole Snacks: +330/-24
Re: Grignard
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 01:27:54 PM »
Are Grignard reagents acidic, basic, or neutral?

Offline discodermolide

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5038
  • Mole Snacks: +405/-70
  • Gender: Male
    • My research history
Re: Grignard
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 02:32:52 PM »
Grignards are organometallic reagents consequently very reactive towards functional groups with H atoms which can be abstracted to give ...?
Now your molecule has a OH group and an aldehyde, so which is more reactive towards the Grignard reagent?
Development Chemists do it on Scale, Research Chemists just do it!
My Research History

Offline orgo814

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 412
  • Mole Snacks: +11/-6
Re: Grignard
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 02:43:36 PM »
So we are proposing that the OH not the aldehyde here and that the de protonated OH group then becomes protonated in the aqueous work up

Offline Babcock_Hall

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5705
  • Mole Snacks: +330/-24
Re: Grignard
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 03:56:15 PM »
Does your hypothesis explain the side product?

Offline discodermolide

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5038
  • Mole Snacks: +405/-70
  • Gender: Male
    • My research history
Re: Grignard
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2015, 05:01:39 PM »
So we are proposing that the OH not the aldehyde here and that the de protonated OH group then becomes protonated in the aqueous work up

What happens to the H of the deprotonated OH?
Development Chemists do it on Scale, Research Chemists just do it!
My Research History

Offline orgo814

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 412
  • Mole Snacks: +11/-6
Re: Grignard
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 07:46:13 PM »
H added to ch3 of grignard

Offline discodermolide

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5038
  • Mole Snacks: +405/-70
  • Gender: Male
    • My research history
Re: Grignard
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2015, 01:48:55 AM »
Right, so why is the correct answer (D)? Draw the reactions out.
Development Chemists do it on Scale, Research Chemists just do it!
My Research History

Sponsored Links