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Balancing an equation
« on: August 13, 2005, 05:33:09 PM »
How do you balance an equation?

__Fe(s) + __Ni(NO3)2(aq)  à  __Fe(NO3)3(aq) + __Ni(s)

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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2005, 06:46:22 PM »
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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2005, 08:04:53 PM »
as an alternative u could try balancing the elements instead (thats what i do all the time to balance equations)
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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2005, 05:06:06 AM »
as an alternative u could try balancing the elements instead (thats what i do all the time to balance equations)

So try this one:

KMnO4 + H2O2 + H2SO4 -> O2 + MnSO4 + H2O + K2SO4

or much simplified form, with all spectators removed, so you may concentrate on the real problem:

MnO4- + H2O2 + H+ -> O2 + Mn2+ + H2O
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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2005, 04:02:03 PM »
first balance H and then O' you'll come to:

MnO4(-) + H2O2 + H(+) --> 2,25 O2 + Mn(2+) + 1,5 H2O

then multiply with 4 :)

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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2005, 04:29:48 PM »
first balance H and then O' you'll come to:

MnO4(-) + H2O2 + H(+) --> 2,25 O2 + Mn(2+) + 1,5 H2O

then multiply with 4 :)

Which gives

4MnO4- + 4H2O2 + 4H+ --> 9O2 + 4Mn2+ + 6H2O

why not

4MnO4- + 2H2O2 + 4H+ --> 8O2 + 4Mn2+ + 4H2O

or

4MnO4- + 6H2O2 + 4H+ --> 10O2 + 4Mn2+ + 8H2O?

Also note that charge is not balanced.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2005, 05:50:04 PM by Borek »
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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 11:09:15 AM »
second and third are incorrect because the coefficients are not the lowest possible --> divide by 2.

Indeed charge is not balanced and thus the reaction is wrong too.

(here i would use halfreactions though)

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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2005, 11:56:34 AM »
second and third are incorrect because the coefficients are not the lowest possible --> divide by 2.

OK. Dividing by two gives:

2MnO4- + H2O2 + 2H+ --> 4O2 + 2Mn2+ + 2H2O

or

2MnO4- + 3H2O2 + 2H+ --> 5O2 + 2Mn2+ + 4H2O

plus your original:

4MnO4- + 4H2O2 + 4H+ --> 9O2 + 4Mn2+ + 6H2O

Apart from the fact that they are all wrong due to ubalanced charge - they are balanced with respect to all elements, they are also "correct" as they are using lowest possible coeffcients.

Yet they can't be all correct - so perhaps the method is wrong?
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Re:Balancing an equation
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2005, 12:09:33 PM »
that indeed can be concluded, because the transported electrons are not taken into account. Thus in this case ON-method are halfreactions is the only correct method.

The correct reaction is:

2 MnO4(-) + 6 H(+) + 5 H2O2 --> 2 Mn(2+) + 8 H2O + 5O2

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