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celebration of geek-dom
« on: April 03, 2006, 06:15:06 PM »
My girlfriend and I are both pretty nerdy, she is a math teacher and I am an engineering student, and we have decided to get married.  In most of the weddings we have been to there is usually some symbolic display of unity during the ceremony, 2 candles lighting another candle, pouring 2 different colored sands together into one container, and the list goes on. So to celebrate our geeky union and to do something completely different from anything else we have seen before, we wanted to create a chemical reaction during ceremony.  Here are the stipulations:

1.  The initial reactants should be clear and colorless (resembling water)
2.  Both initial reactants should be easy to obtain
3.  Both initial reactants and final product should be "safe".  (Nothing too toxic)
4.  We are hoping for either a drastic vivid color change or the release of a visible non-toxic gas (smoke)
5.  The less mess the better
6.  The less heat the better

Basically, I am shooting for something simple like a vinegar and baking soda solution reaction without the mess.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Don

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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2006, 06:19:05 PM »
My girlfriend and I are both pretty nerdy

And you still need help? :)

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4.  We are hoping for either a drastic vivid color change

NaOH/phenolphthalein.
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2006, 07:19:14 PM »
Both of which are safe and easily obtained (in chemistry sets or science stores). Description: EXTREMELY vivid color change. Awesome to watch.
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2006, 09:45:42 PM »
The luminol/hydrogen peroxide (or bleach) is pretty cool, too--the firefly glow is cool.

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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2006, 03:32:00 AM »
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NaOH/phenolphthalein

NaOH is cautic soda
will a very dilute solution give good color?
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2006, 03:33:13 AM »
The luminol/hydrogen peroxide (or bleach) is pretty cool, too--the firefly glow is cool.

I agree - it is visually great. But will it be bright enough to be visible in full light (assuming that's how most weddings go)?
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2006, 03:41:18 AM »
NaOH is cautic soda
will a very dilute solution give good color?

Good question, but it shouldn't be a problem.

http://www.ph-meter.info/pH-measurements-indicators

For pH=10 color change is complete, pH=10 is 10-4M, hardly concentrated enough to be dangerous.

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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2006, 06:46:26 PM »
Yeah, phenolphthalien and NaOH would be pretty cool.  What an awesome idea, I am so doing that at my wedding.  Fitting for a chemist :)

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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2006, 02:52:09 AM »
NaOH is cautic soda
will a very dilute solution give good color?

Instead NaOH, Na2CO3 can be used
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2006, 02:49:13 PM »
The luminol reaction can be bright enough to see in daylight, provided that the altar doesn't have a large window as a backdrop or something.  It depends on the concentration, too.  I think that hydrogen peroxide gives a blue glow for a few minutes while the bleach gives a green-yellow color.  I've heard of other colors being produced with different oxidizing agents, too.  Of course, if this is done in low light or in a dark room, the effect will be spectacular.

As for my wedding, assuming that I'm ever going to be married, I'm going to shoot off a heart shaped red firework followed by two golden interlocking rings. :)
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2006, 03:29:48 PM »
If you don't like the pink color of phenolphthalein, you might be able to find thymolphthalein which is deep blue colored, changing colors under similar conditions (e.g. base, I think Na2CO3 is basic enough.)

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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2006, 03:36:26 PM »
In general every indicator listed at http://www.ph-meter.info/pH-measurements-indicators as colorless on one side will do :)
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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2006, 08:06:44 PM »
I would, however, not suggest the use of picric acid. :)

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Re:celebration of geek-dom
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 02:28:17 AM »
It can only make a wedding more memorable :)
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