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Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« on: January 09, 2020, 05:58:45 PM »
Hey guys, I've been struggling with a question my teacher assigned me. This is it:
A balloon containing air is at the pressure of one atmosphere and at a temperature of 0 degrees Celsius. Assuming that the molar fraction of oxygen contained in the balloon is 0,20 and that the number of oxygen molecules in the baloon is 2,5 · 10^24, calculate the volume of air present in the baloon.
The answer must be given in dm^3.

Can you help me figure it out? I'd appreciate that so much!
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Re: Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2020, 06:17:58 PM »
Edit: 2,5 · 10^4 to 2,5 · 10^24

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Re: Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2020, 06:27:00 PM »
You have to show your attempts at solving the problem to receive help, this is a forum policy.

You definitely should know some formulas/laws related to the problem, can you list them?
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Re: Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2020, 06:35:03 PM »
You have to show your attempts at solving the problem to receive help, this is a forum policy.

You definitely should know some formulas/laws related to the problem, can you list them?

Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm a newbie. Of course I attempted to solve it.
First, 0 degrees Celsius and 1 atmosphere equals Vm=22.4dm^3·mol^-1
Next, I thought that if N(02)=2,5·10^24, then N(O)=5·10^24 (the molar fraction is of oxigen atoms).
Then, I discovered the moles of O (N=n·Na <=> n=N/Na <=> n=0,83·10^-2<=>n=0,0083 mol
I know it is supposed to use Vm=V(air)/n(air), but I don't know how to find the n(air).


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Re: Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2020, 08:13:26 PM »
You have to show your attempts at solving the problem to receive help, this is a forum policy.

You definitely should know some formulas/laws related to the problem, can you list them?

Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm a newbie. Of course I attempted to solve it.
First, 0 degrees Celsius and 1 atmosphere equals Vm=22.4dm^3·mol^-1
Next, I thought that if N(02)=2,5·10^24, then N(O)=5·10^24 (the molar fraction is of oxigen atoms).
Then, I discovered the moles of O (N=n·Na <=> n=N/Na <=> n=0,83·10^-2<=>n=0,0083 mol
I know it is supposed to use Vm=V(air)/n(air), but I don't know how to find the n(air).

I'm a little confused as to why you are calculating the number of oxygen atoms present. I would recommend going back and re-looking at the definition of molar fractions.

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Re: Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2020, 08:50:42 AM »
how's your dimensional analysis these days?  Can you follow along?

moles air

    2.5x10^24 O2 molecules      100 molecules air             1 mol air molecules
   ------------------------------ x --------------------- x -------------------------------- = 20.8mol
                      1                       20 molecules O2       6.022x10^23 molecules air

then
   PV = nRT
   V = nRT/P
   V = 20.8 mol air * 0.08206 dm3atm/molK * 273.15K / 1 atm = 470dm3 air... (to 2 sig figs)

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Re: Quantitative Composition of Compounds Question
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2020, 09:16:56 AM »
Yeah, I think I understood. I found a different, more laborious way of doing it:
1 atm and 0 ºC -> NTP -> Vm = 22,4 dm3mol-1

N=n·Na <=> n=2,5·1024/6.022·1023 <=> n=4,151 mol

1 mol of air   :resonance: 0,2 mol of O2
nair  :resonance: 4,15 mol of O2
nair=4,15/0,2=20,76 mol

Vm= V/n <=> V=22,4 x 20,76 <=> V=465,02 dm3

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