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Offline sharbeldam

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Adding R group to meta pos in Styrene?
« on: March 22, 2020, 03:59:56 PM »
So since I cant do the friedel craft for 2 reasons:
1) the alkene will react with the catalyst
2) also the R groups are o/p directing and I need to add an ethyl group to the meta position.

Here is my try but it seems too long, any simpler ways? what's wrong with my way?

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Re: Adding R group to meta pos in Styrene?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2020, 06:30:05 AM »
I think you can turn the alkene to a carbonyl group using mild oxidative degradation condition which gives a meta directing group then you can add your ethyl group.


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Re: Adding R group to meta pos in Styrene?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2020, 11:51:57 PM »
So you want the meta ethyl styrene. 

If You start with the acetanilide (o,p) director.  Add a bromine with BR2/FeBr3.  Add an ethyl by Friedel-Crafts.  Now hydrolyze off the amide, diazotize the amine and treat with hypophosphorous acid (H3PO2) to replace the diazo with H.  Now you have m-bromoethylbenzene.  Treat with lithium metal or butyl lithium to make the m-ethyl phenyl lithium.  Treat it with dimethylformamide to make the methylbenzaldehyde.  Treat this with the ylid derived from a methyltriphenylphosphonium salt under Wittig conditions to make the alkene. 

There may be a better way but this works well.

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Re: Adding R group to meta pos in Styrene?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2020, 06:02:48 PM »
Maybe you get halogen-dance if you try to get ethyl by Friedel-Craft when you have a bromo in the molecule hollytara? I dont understand the scheme, it is so complicated? To have a aldehyde as meta-director and use wittig to get the styrene is good I think though. Brominate benzaldehyde and use Pd-chemistry (Stille) with triethyl tin to get the ethyl and then wittig.

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Re: Adding R group to meta pos in Styrene?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2020, 11:11:33 PM »
I think that is good - I was trying to keep from going too advanced.  In classic syntheses, you can use nitro (as a m director) or reduce to the amine (o,p director) to direct position of reaction, then remove the directing group by diazotizing and replacing with hydride from H3PO2.

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