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Is this a Claisen Condensation?
« on: July 16, 2021, 09:06:16 AM »

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Re: Is this a Claisen Condensation?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2021, 12:11:21 PM »
Is it possible that the acid will catalyze a further reaction?
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Are you sure that your benzyl group is in the correct place from a regiochemistry perspective?  Might be worth drawing curved arrows. 
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Re: Is this a Claisen Condensation?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2021, 01:47:10 PM »
It is not quite a Claisen condensation, as this is a reaction between two esters (crossed Claisen condensations occur between an ester and some other carbonyl, like a ketone).

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Re: Is this a Claisen Condensation?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 07:32:41 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malonic_ester_synthesis
Oh, I never really looked at the Malonic ester synthesis that way.

It's essentially a way of making a custom ester. Would you use transesterification to change the O-R moiety?

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Re: Is this a Claisen Condensation?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2021, 03:55:10 PM »
@OP, After the removal of the proton, which atom is the nucleophile with respect to the benzylic carbon?

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Re: Is this a Claisen Condensation?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2021, 04:14:38 PM »
OK, now I saw the link in the top Babcock, yes, it is the wrong carbon acting as nucleophile.

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