December 20, 2024, 11:38:41 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Esterification with bromine products  (Read 2130 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline CasualGabe

  • Very New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-0
Esterification with bromine products
« on: September 15, 2021, 04:14:33 AM »
Hi everyone,

I’m studying opiates and opioids for a full comprehension of the mu receptor.

I’m studying chemistry but much more bio chemistry so i need your help for a exercise.
I’m actually working on the capacity of the mu and kappa receptors in the brain (on mice, of course) and the key information is that an opiate with a long ester on the N or the 14 position penetrate deeper and better in the mu receptor, binding it very well like fentanyl does.

Picture 14-OH-opiate compound and you want to make a 14-esterification with phenylethyl bromide.

In which conditions will it be the best ? I know that bromine products are much more reactives than chlorines ones so i choose phenyethyl bromide as the key reagent.

Opiates are fragiles so i don’t want to heat it up or not too hot.

I was thinking of addind sulfuric acid as a catalyser and setting up a reflux and add the phenethyl bromide drop by drop.

What do you think about it ?


Kind regards,
Gabe.

Offline rolnor

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2308
  • Mole Snacks: +154/-10
Re: Esterification with bromine products
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2021, 05:18:53 AM »
This is a ether formation, not esterification.
You can try cesium carbonate and phenethyl bromide in dimethyl sulphoxide. I dont  think you need heat. sonication in a ultrasonic bath can speed things up.
The fact that you suggest acid as catalyst shows that you need to do some reading, here is a start:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamson_ether_synthesis
« Last Edit: September 15, 2021, 05:36:47 AM by rolnor »

Offline Borek

  • Mr. pH
  • Administrator
  • Deity Member
  • *
  • Posts: 27885
  • Mole Snacks: +1815/-412
  • Gender: Male
  • I am known to be occasionally wrong.
    • Chembuddy
Re: Esterification with bromine products
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2021, 07:08:05 AM »
Beware: this is close to drug synthesis which we don't discuss here.

I am leaving the thread open for now, but don't be surprised if it gets locked at some point.
ChemBuddy chemical calculators - stoichiometry, pH, concentration, buffer preparation, titrations.info

Offline CasualGabe

  • Very New Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-0
Re: Esterification with bromine products
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2021, 07:42:05 AM »
This is a ether formation, not esterification.
You can try cesium carbonate and phenethyl bromide in dimethyl sulphoxide. I dont  think you need heat. sonication in a ultrasonic bath can speed things up.
The fact that you suggest acid as catalyst shows that you need to do some reading, here is a start:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamson_ether_synthesis

Thank you. This is wonderful.

I don’t need any other information and I don’t want this subject to be inappropriate.

Kind regards everyone.

Offline rolnor

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2308
  • Mole Snacks: +154/-10
Re: Esterification with bromine products
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2021, 11:02:44 AM »
Good!

Sponsored Links