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Determining the optical purity for a family of new amino acid derivatives
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A reviewer would like to know whether our novel amino acid salts RCH=CHCH
2
CH(NH
2
HCl)CO
2
H] racemized during the synthesis. They are soluble in water/acetonitrile during LC-MS experiments and generally soluble in DMSO. Only one is UV-active, which might make detection in LC more difficult. I doubt that they would be soluble in a chiral NMR solvent, but I don't know. What sorts of methods should we be thinking about?
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Yes, Mosher amide would be a good idea, chiral solvents are not reliable, you might not get any separation of the peaks on NMR, a chiral column and LC would require that you have the two isomers and develop a method with a chiral column I guess.
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My concern with Mosher chemistry is that we have a free carboxylic acid in the molecule, which might react with the Mosher acyl chloride.
HPLC with a polysaccharide based stationary phase or with a chiral ion-pair reagent might work, but both of those are speculation on my part. I am starting to search for examples.
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You could consider using chiral derivatizing agents like Mosher amides for sure. But honestly, I’m not 100% sure if they’d work well with your compounds. Maybe also look into other chiral chromatography methods or NMR options? Just trying to brainstorm here, not quite an expert.
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