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How to make isobutane from acetone?
« on: December 12, 2006, 04:46:47 PM »
Hi, I have a problem with homework :) Our lecturer set us a task to find some information about simple way how to make isobutane from acetone :| I was searching internet but I didn't find anything interesting :(
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 05:07:27 PM »
Well, you will have to add another carbon... How can you add carbon to carbonyls?
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 05:28:35 PM »
Well, you will have to add another carbon... How can you add carbon to carbonyls?


I know only reaction attach halogenchains with Na ... (extending)  :|
So how to swap =O to -CH3 ? :|
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 05:44:24 PM »
So how to swap =O to -CH3 ? :|

I don't know of a way to do that directly, how could you do...

CH3C(=O)CH3 ----> CH3C(OH)(CH3)CH3 ?

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CH3C(=O)CH3 -----> CH3C(=CH2)CH3 ?
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 06:51:57 PM »
I have an idea but it's to complicated and time-consuming....there can be in two steps:

1) CH3C(=O)CH3 ---H2-> CH3CH2(-OH)CH3 ---HCl-> CH3CH2(-Cl)CH3
      (acetone)                     (2-propanol)               (2-chloropropane)

2) CH3CH2(-Cl)CH3    +    CH3Cl   ---Na-> CH3CH(-CH3)CH3 + CH3CH(-CH3)CH(-CH3)CH3 + CH3CH3
 (2-chloropropane)    (chloromethane)         (isobutane)                  (2,3-dimethylbutane)         (ethane)

But in this reaction there are other compounds besides isobutane  ???   :-\
Help with something simpler . Greets   ::)
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 07:14:10 PM »
The most obvious route I can see is via catalytic hydrogenation of isobutene, which in turn could come from acetone via a Wittig reaction, or from the dehydration of t-butanol which could come from treatment of acetone with a Gringnard reagent or an alkyl lithium. Which is what I was getting at in my second post.

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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 07:21:35 PM »
"Wittig reaction" ?  sth. new for me.... :) Can you  . describe a little? :)
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 08:28:01 PM »
Well, you will have to add another carbon... How can you add carbon to carbonyls?



is that an Sn2 rxn?

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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 04:18:20 AM »
is that an Sn2 rxn?

It's addition rather than substitution.
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 12:41:42 PM »
So it will be sth. like this...:


???  :)
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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2006, 10:12:19 AM »
First use Witting Reaction to get 2-methylprop-1-ene,
then  use Borane-----BH3.Me2S  to reduce this ene ,and use H2O2 . NaOH aqueous to dispose,then get this alcohol

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Re: How to make isobutane from acetone?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 03:49:45 PM »
Whats the product of reaction acetone with diazomethane (CH2N2) ???
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