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Finding Freezing Point Depression
« on: June 14, 2007, 10:38:38 AM »
What is the freezing point depression of an aqueous solution that has a boiling point of 101.76°C at 1.00 atm pressure kB(H2O) = 0.51 °C.kg.mol-1; kF(H2O) = 1.86 °C.kg.mol-1?

For this question I used the equations:

Tf=kfmsolute

and

Tb=kbmsolute

(I'm not sure if these equations are correct, am I meant to have an "i" included?)

I substituted the BP of 101.76 into the 2nd equation along with Kb to obtain molality of solute. Then I used this same molality to find Tf but somehow didn't get the right answer of 6.41 °C

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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 11:04:08 AM »
Approach seems OK. Show your work and/or check your math.
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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2007, 02:11:46 AM »
Ok, here's my working out:

101.76 = 0.51 x msolute

Therefore, msolute=199.5

Sub this value into the freezing point depression equation:

Tf= 1.86 x 199.5

So freezing point depression is 371.1

My final answer is really off.

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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2007, 02:33:21 AM »
101.76 = 0.51 x msolute

That's what I suspected ;) Change, not the boiling point itself.
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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2007, 10:10:16 AM »
So is it incorrect to be putting 101.76 as Tb? What's supposed to be used?

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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2007, 11:14:22 AM »
What is Tf, what is Tb? Hint: they should be really written as ΔTf and ΔTb.
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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 10:05:57 AM »
Thanks for the tip, I know it's meant to have the delta sign (just didn't include it here)...I did 101.76-100 for Tb and it's giving the right answer so I assume that's what I'm meant to do.  :)

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Re: Finding Freezing Point Depression
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2007, 10:46:24 AM »
Exactly :)
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