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Synthetic equivalents?
« on: May 18, 2008, 04:15:19 PM »
A synthetic equivalent is supposed to be a reagent whose structure, when in the final product, gives the appearance of having come from another starting reagent when as a starting material it had a different structural origin.

I believe an example is the ethyl acetoacetate ion and acetone enolate.

However I don't really understand why the two would be called synthetic equivalents. Doesn't the acetoacetate have the extra ester group attached to it in the final product?

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Re: Synthetic equivalents?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 04:47:44 PM »
Lets say I have the ethyl acetoacetate ion and do an Sn2 substitution with CH3Br. I then follow that up by converting the ester portion of the molecule to a carboxylic acid and then subsequently decarboxylate to get a 2-butanone.

Suppose I take the acetone enolate and then alkylate w/ CH3Br. I get the same 2-butanone.

Now would you call the two reagents synthetic equivalents because of the 2-butanone product or because they both undergo Sn2 rxns to yield similar looking products except the ethyl acetoacetate ion forms a more substituted product (prior to decarboxylation)?

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Re: Synthetic equivalents?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2008, 04:48:05 AM »
Now would you call the two reagents synthetic equivalents because of the 2-butanone product or because they both undergo Sn2 rxns to yield similar looking products except the ethyl acetoacetate ion forms a more substituted product (prior to decarboxylation)?

The fact that you get the same product is the reason for the term synthetic equivalent.
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Re: Synthetic equivalents?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 04:35:57 PM »
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