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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2006, 05:28:12 PM »
O my. This topic is really, really old.
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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2006, 06:54:40 AM »
water doesn't burn because water is a product of complete combustion

Water can burn!!!

over a high temperatur !!!

-> H2

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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2006, 07:53:00 PM »
Water can burn!!!

over a high temperatur !!!

-> H2

Huh? You want to elaborate on that more please.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2006, 07:53:12 PM by constant thinker »
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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2006, 10:54:41 PM »
Well said constant thinker. Maybe we need a professional semanticist. I wonder when you translate burn into German you get a different meaning.

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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2006, 02:27:23 AM »
If you want to see something that looks like water that burns, get some highly concentrated alcohol solution and put a match to it. It will burn, and it LOOKS like water!

Yipee! Problem solved!

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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2006, 04:54:02 PM »
One of the products of alcohol combustion is water.

Problem with that is that with some alcohols at various concentrations the color it burns it will be washed out by the ambient color. Trust me I've burnt myself doing it and it hurts.

You can use alcohol for a make shift bunsen burner. Take a glass vile and some sort of wick (napkin can work, but it tends to burn to easily).
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Re:Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2006, 08:30:30 PM »
Corvettaholic,
Ethanol has hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen in it. Throw some vodka on a fire what happens. It burns very fast depending on concentration, but from my expierence very fast. Interesting post made me think Corvettaholic. I'd imagine that your COHh would burn. It would just requires more oxygen. Ethanol is C2H5OH. I'd imagine "burning" it would look something like this:
C2H5OH + 6O2--->2CO2 + 3H2O

Correct me if I made a mistake.

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C2H5OH + 3O2 ---> 2CO2 + 3H2O

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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2006, 11:49:57 AM »
Wow will17. That was 11 months ago and I'm surprised no one caught that. I didn't eve know I had made a mistake.
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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2006, 03:37:11 PM »
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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2006, 08:14:01 PM »
WOW- I was wondering why my scooby snack count jumped from 4 to 5! So much credit for such a little correction (I wouldn't have mentioned it if he didn't say 'Correct me if I made a mistake'!)- thanks ;)!

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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2006, 12:27:44 PM »
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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2006, 06:41:57 PM »
   so are you guys saying that when hydrogen and oxygen come together there is no "burning".  because i've been told different.

  i've been told that a hydrogen-oxygen reaction at first burns. is this then incorrect?

   please explain

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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2006, 11:00:55 AM »
North  -  of course hydrogen H2 and Oxygen O2 burn:

2H2 + O2 + heat > 2H2O + big bang


But what these guys are saying is that the H2O then will 'burn' no further as the reaction (2H2 + O2 > 2H2O)  is fully complete.   The '' marks around the word burn are there because alot of the discussion has been about what 'burn' really means.

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Re: Why doesn't water burn?
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2006, 12:48:43 PM »
hey brothers  :) :)Help me solve this problem: Why doesn't water burn???
water is the oxide of hydrogen so essentially it is the product of a combustion reaction, thus it has already been burned.

edit: dam ^ he got to it before me.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2006, 12:50:40 PM by mrdeadman »
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