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Offline demonat0r

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Question on Reaction Mechanisms
« on: February 05, 2009, 07:16:59 PM »
1. A + A <~~> X     (fast)
2. X + B ~~> C + Y (slow)
3. Y + B ~~> D       (fast)
Rate = k[A]^2[ B]

the slowest step is step 2 so...rate = k(2)[X][ B]
step 1 is an equilibrium so...k(f)[A][A] = k(r)[X]
solve for x...[X] = (k(f) / k(r)) * [A]^2
substitute...Rate = k(2) * (k(f) / k(r)) [A]^2[ B]

then it becomes Rate = k[A]^2 [ B]

that is how it was presented in my book. what i don't get is how the terms cancel out after you substitute. where the the k(f) / k(r) go? by the way for k(2), the 2 is a subscript. can someone please explain how you get to the last step after substituting?
(the rate should be k times [A] squared times the concentration of B. sry for the confusion but whenever i type the concentration of B with the brackets, it just won't show up for some reason.)

also a quick question. for a reaction mechanism, is the reaction with the higest activation energy also the slowest step?
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Re: Question on Reaction Mechanisms
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 08:15:49 PM »
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(the rate should be k times [A] squared times the concentration of B. sry for the confusion but whenever i type the concentration of B with the brackets, it just won't show up for some reason.)
Lol, use [B ] with a space.

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that is how it was presented in my book. what i don't get is how the terms cancel out after you substitute. where the the k(f) / k(r) go? by the way for k(2), the 2 is a subscript.
What is essentially Kf/Kr?
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Re: Question on Reaction Mechanisms
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 12:06:19 AM »
i know that...
kf / kr = K eq

i don't see how K eq just disappears though.

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Re: Question on Reaction Mechanisms
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 08:31:52 AM »
Ok, Keq x k2 = k because constant times constant gives you a constant.
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Re: Question on Reaction Mechanisms
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 02:05:11 AM »
oh ok so basically:
k(from an elementary step) x K eq = k (overall reaction)
right?

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Re: Question on Reaction Mechanisms
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 03:21:24 AM »
You're correct ;D
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