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Offline nj_bartel

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pocl3 in pyridine to eliminate to styrene, followed by kmno4 to cleave the alkene to benzoic acid

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Re: 2-phenylethanol -> benzoic acid; why won't these conditions work?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 02:27:30 AM »
pocl3 in pyridine to eliminate to styrene, followed by kmno4 to cleave the alkene to benzoic acid

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Where do you want to eliminate styrene from?  ???

In case you want to make benzoic acid I would choose the following route: bromobenzene + magnesium gives phenylmagnesium bromide. You can react that species with carbon dioxide followed by quenching with water to give benzoic acid :) Seams much easier to me and you avoid using toxic havy metals.

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Re: 2-phenylethanol -> benzoic acid; why won't these conditions work?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 09:39:24 AM »
This is just a theoretical synthesis problem in onlnie homework  :P The styrene was resulting from treatment of the 2-phenylethanol with pocl3.

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Re: 2-phenylethanol -> benzoic acid; why won't these conditions work?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 01:00:14 PM »
NVM, that route would work - just wasn't what the online was looking for (KMnO4 would do it by itself in one step).

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Re: 2-phenylethanol -> benzoic acid; why won't these conditions work?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 05:43:38 PM »
Yes, KMnO4, hot, with concentrated base I believe, will chew away any alkyl group that has a benzylic hydrogen (that would be a hydrogen on the carbon adjacent to the benzene ring), and it will turn it into a carboxylic acid group.

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Re: 2-phenylethanol -> benzoic acid; why won't these conditions work?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 10:26:56 AM »
why didn't you dehydrate simply using conc. sulphuric acid?

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Re: 2-phenylethanol -> benzoic acid; why won't these conditions work?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 10:58:37 AM »
Wasn't one of the allowed reactants.

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