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Offline Alquimista

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help with lewis structure
« on: February 08, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
How would one draw lewis structures of compounds that have a positive or negative ions, like OH - or H3O+ for example? Here's my solution for OH- the oxygen atom has one electron leftover, so that's why there is a negative ion. .correct? Except I'm uncertain about the other compound since I don't where to place the remaining H atom

Btw, this isn't a homework question or anything to do with school. I'm just interested in chemsitry.

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Re: help with lewis structure
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 08:39:26 PM »
14 views and not a single reply? It must be a sunday lol

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Re: help with lewis structure
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 05:40:05 AM »
It may be easier to split this into the H2O and H+ structures, then consider the nature of the bond.

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Re: help with lewis structure
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 12:20:27 AM »
I do agree with sjb..try his suggestion..because i think you can't have such chemical formula like H30+..that's for certain.. ;)
Of course, H30+ does not exist separately like molecules, but H30+, H5O2+ and H7O3+ were found in the crystal structures of strong acids hence chemists should be familiar with them.
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Re: help with lewis structure
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 03:04:58 AM »
I do agree with sjb..try his suggestion..because i think you can't have such chemical formula like H30+..that's for certain.. ;)
Of course, H30+ does not exist separately like molecules, but H30+, H5O2+ and H7O3+ were found in the crystal structures of strong acids hence chemists should be familiar with them.

You first wrote that one can't have H3O+, than you wrote that it was found in crystal structures. You contradict yourself.
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Re: help with lewis structure
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 12:25:51 PM »
I may be being too simple, by Lewis structure I assume you mean Lewis Dot Structure.
Something helpful I was taught is that, let's say your dealing with Carbon a four valence electron element- place one dot at top, bottom, and each side.  For other elements use more or less dots.  The element to be bonded (Lewis dot style) use x es for its' valence.  Dots usually are used for symbol for electrons available for bonding...  I'm starting to trip over my words...I should just delete this, although there is a slim chance it may help, therefore I add it and see if a more experienced member can untangle my verbage. :-[   I do know that this method is very helpful in determining if lone pairs are present.   

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Re: help with lewis structure
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2009, 07:14:04 PM »
See below

For resonance structures, vary the position of the double bonds

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