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Rearrangement mechanism
« on: June 02, 2009, 11:55:11 AM »
1 ---Thermolysis---> X -----Thermal reorganization----> Y ---tautomerization--> 2

Give the complete mechanism.

Maybe looks like a vinyl cyclopropane rearrangement fused with that nitrene intermediate. But I'm not able to obtain a 7 member ring...

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 12:49:06 PM »
I tried solving it, and in the first part to remove the N2 gas, I imitated the first part of Curtius Rearrangement. I think a pericyclic reaction may be involved in this, especially in the last part. I'm just not that sure of it, though. I can't seem to get the Nitrogen atom to get close to the carbonyl group...

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 02:01:40 PM »
Is it really NH?  Maybe NMe?  There are 7 carbon atoms in the SM and only 6 in the pdt.
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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 02:13:51 PM »
Oh yea sorry  :-[

The extra methylene group b/w the acyl and the azide shouldn't be there.

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 02:45:52 PM »
ah, that helps a lot.  here's my hint: there's a 6-pi sigmatropic rearrangement that takes place.
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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 03:21:28 PM »
I guesses about the sigmatrpic rearrangement. But can you please expand?

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 03:59:11 PM »
can you draw the mechanism for the generic sigmatropic rearrangement?

also, what reactions do you know involving acyl azides?
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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2009, 09:18:54 PM »
Oh so that's why I can't get the Nitrogen atom to come close to the carbonyl group.  :)

Here's what I had in mind... I'm not pretty sure of my last line, though... Any comments on it would be highly appreciated.

P.S. I'm afraid that the image might be too large, I don't want to spam the board with this, though, and so I sincerely apologize...


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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2009, 11:57:45 PM »
Thank you jpg, for that. So, it was simply a curtius rearrangement followed by the sigmatropic rearrangement?

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 12:24:09 AM »
Well, I'm not really really 100% sure, especially for the last part. I just tried to provide a mechanism for the transformation. The first one imitates the initial part of a Curtius rearrangement, while the latter part involves a [3,3]-sigmatropic rearrangement. I am not 100% sure of the last part, however. But it seems possible for it to do that.

What's bothering me is the fact that the Nitrogen atom in the amide [in this case, the lactam] is not sufficiently basic enough, since it's included in the resonance. I just forced it to take the hydrogen atom to produce that product.

I've read a book about polarophile interactions (I believe this is still under pericylic reactions), and maybe the explanation for the last part lies in that. The book that I was referring to was Dr. Grossman's book on The Art of Writing Reasonable Organic Reaction Mechanisms (2e). Anyway, I hope that helped you in a small way. :)

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 02:53:31 AM »
What's bothering me is the fact that the Nitrogen atom in the amide [in this case, the lactam] is not sufficiently basic enough, since it's included in the resonance. I just forced it to take the hydrogen atom to produce that product.

I wouldn't think that lone pair would participate in resonance to any significant extent. More likely that the N=C is in resonance with the carbonyl...can't have both, though. It's analogous to how the lone pair on pyridine can't be part of the pi-system.

The only thing I would question about the mechanism is whether it's intramolecular, but the overall idea is fine.

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 03:03:11 AM »
I wouldn't think that lone pair would participate in resonance to any significant extent. More likely that the N=C is in resonance with the carbonyl...can't have both, though.

That's a good argument, Squirmy. As of now, I'm still having doubts, most especially with that last part. :) Oh, and by the way, thanks for commenting on it. :)

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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2009, 05:08:20 AM »
tautomerizations are rarely intramolecular.  but I wouldn't worry about that too much.  As said above, the nitrogen lone pair is orthogonal to the C=N-C=O conjugation.  Forget about the carbonyl, and it's just an imine/enamine tautomerization.  Plus the doubly allylic protons are especially acidic, helping with the tautomerization.
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Re: Rearrangement mechanism
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2009, 07:49:23 AM »
Oh, so that's the reason for the last part then. Thank you for helping me understand that as well, azmanam.

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