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Stoichiometry question
« on: March 24, 2010, 11:18:18 PM »
A 5.430 g mixture of FeO and Fe3O4 is reacted with excess of oxygen to form 5.779 g Fe2O3. Find the masses of FeO and Fe3O4 present in the mixture.

I found the answer by doing the following:
Fe2O3 = 159.69 g/mol
FeO = 71.745 g/mol
Fe3O4 = 231.535 g/mol
5.779 g Fe2O3 / 159.69 g/mol = 0.03619 mol Fe2O3

x + y :rarrow: 0.03619 mol Fe2O3, where x = FeO and y = Fe3O4.
This implies that y = 0.03619 - x.
5.430 g = x*71.745 g/mol + (0.03619 - x)*231.535g/mol
x = 0.01846 mol * 71.745 g/mol = 1.324 g FeO
y = 0.03619 - 0.01846 = 0.01773 mol * 231.535 g/mol = 4.105 g Fe3O4



My question is why doesn't the following work:



4FeO + O2 :rarrow: 2Fe2O3
4Fe3O4 + O2  :rarrow: 6Fe2O3
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2FeO + 2Fe3O4 + O2 :rarrow: 4Fe2O3

5.779 g Fe2O3 / 159.69 g/mol = 0.03619 mol Fe2O3
Product:reactants in question are in a 2:1 ratio as given by the stoichiometric coefficients.
0.03619 mol / 2 = 0.01810 mol of FeO and 0.01810 mol Fe3O4.
0.01810 mol FeO * 71.745 g/mol = 1.299 g FeO
0.01810 mol Fe3O4 * 231.535 g/mol = 4.191 g Fe3O4

Obviously this doesn't work because the original mixture is 5.430 g and not 1.299 g + 4.191 g = 5.490 g. Why doesn't this work the way I think it should? Thank you.

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Re: Stoichiometry question
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2010, 05:19:30 AM »
4FeO + O2 :rarrow: 2Fe2O3
4Fe3O4 + O2  :rarrow: 6Fe2O3
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2FeO + 2Fe3O4 + O2 :rarrow: 4Fe2O3

Adding these reaction equations you are ASSUMING ratio of FeO:Fe3O4 to be 1:1 (or 4:4, which is the same).
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Re: Stoichiometry question
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 05:43:27 AM »
Your solutions do not work because they are BOTH wrong.

You start with a mixture of FeO and Fe3O4 that weighs 5.430g.
You end up with Fe2O3 that weighs 5.779g

In your first "solution" you assume the moles of product equals the moles of starting materials added together, that is not the case.

In your second "solution" as Borek has pointed out you have assumed the moles of the two starting materials are equal which is not the case.

From the data given you can produce at least two equations with only two unknowns.

For example the weights of FeO and Fe3O4 = 5.430g
Xg of FeO + Yg of Fe3O4 = 5.430g  so X+Y = 5.43

You can calculate how much Fe is in the final 5.779g of Fe2O3
That is also the same amount of Fe that is in the FeO and Fe3O4 starting mixture.  You can now construct another equation that relates the g of Fe in Xg of FeO and Yg of Fe3O4 to the amount in 5.779g of Fe2O3.  Rearrange the two equations with two unknowns to one equation and one unknown and you've solved it.

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Re: Stoichiometry question
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 09:54:20 AM »
5.779 g Fe2O3 * (111.69 g Fe / 159.69 g Fe2O3) = 4.042 g Fe
X = 5.430 - Y, where X = FeO and Y = Fe3O4
4.042 g Fe = (grams of Fe in FeO) + (grams of Fe in Fe3O4)
4.042 g Fe = (5.430 - Y) * (55.845 g Fe / 71.845 g FeO) + Y * (167.535 g Fe / 231.535 g Fe3O4)
Y = 3.327 g Fe3O4
X = 5.430 g - 3.327 g = 2.103 g FeO

Is this correct?

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Re: Stoichiometry question
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 11:59:03 AM »
Yes.

Can you see why this is the correct way to solve it?

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Re: Stoichiometry question
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 12:26:44 PM »
Yes, although it wasn't apparent at first.

It's surprising that I'm 10 weeks into a general chemistry II course, yet I still get stumped by these questions.

Thank you for your help, Borek and DrCMS.

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Re: Stoichiometry question
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 01:15:46 PM »
Glad we could help you.

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