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Offline JohnTan

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Polarity
« on: June 06, 2010, 03:41:01 AM »
Hi guys, I was just wondering, does having a charge on an atom in a molecule automatically make this bond a dipole if the other atom has no charge? or is it still based on electronegativity?

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Re: Polarity
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 04:55:27 AM »
Not necessarily, if it's singular like you said it would but not always.

Look at the sulfate ion. It has a net charge but if you evaluate the resonance structures there's no net dipole in any direction so it's non polar.

It's all about electronegativity and symmetry.

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Re: Polarity
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 08:39:55 AM »
does having a charge on an atom in a molecule automatically make this bond a dipole if the other atom has no charge?
What do you mean the other atom has no charge? There is never an ion without a counter-ion. So, every ionic molecule is a dipole.
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Re: Polarity
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 07:28:41 PM »
does having a charge on an atom in a molecule automatically make this bond a dipole if the other atom has no charge?
What do you mean the other atom has no charge? There is never an ion without a counter-ion. So, every ionic molecule is a dipole.
I assumed he was referring to formal charges, where the adjacent atom in the molecule has no formal charge. Like an acetylide

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Re: Polarity
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 07:34:07 PM »
If the difference in electronegativity is greater than 1.5 the bond is ionic. between 0.3 to 1.4 would be in the range of polar covalent.

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