[osward]

Hi everyone,

I'm newbie here, i'm not a chemistry student but intresting to play around with it. Ok i'm using a thorium to create oxygen and hydrogen in a air (N+He=>O+H). i use a air pump, the air inlet install with thorium filter. every air going in the air pump inlet going to convert to Oxygen and Hydrogen. So i though once i light up a fire in a air pump outlet it going to be small explosion. But nothing!!!

Its because of singel H and O cant burn? Its need to bond it become HHO?

 

[gippgig]

Nuclear reactions generally occur extremely infrequently. Only trace amounts - a few atoms - of H would be produced (and any that was formed would react (chemically) as soon as it was produced).

[osward]

Nuclear reactions generally occur extremely infrequently. Only trace amounts - a few atoms - of H would be produced (and any that was formed would react (chemically) as soon as it was produced).

Hi Gipping,
Only few H atom produce and it will automaticaly bond by it self to HHO. Hmmm so with mean my probelm is, i need to increase the H atom. Currently i'm using alpha 5000CPM, so how much more should i increase? Or do you have a data of H release from Thorium in calculation?

[MrTeo]

Ever thought about water electrolysis to get O₂ and H₂? 

[gippgig]

I don't have any figures for the rate of H production but it is so small that it just isn't practical to make a significant amount this way.

[vmelkon]

When the nitrogen in the air is hit by an alpha particle, a proton might be ejected so in fact, you won't have hydrogen, it will be a lonely proton flying off at high speed until it bind with some atom (N2 or O2 or whatever is in the air).
14N + alpha(+2) = 17O(+) + p(+)

Another reaction path would be
14N + alpha(+2) = 17F(+2) + n
and the F would decay by beta+ emission and turn into 17O

A fun experiment would be to try to detect those beta+ emissions with a geiger counter.